Evolution’s Backers in Kansas Start Counterattack - Page 3

richlevy · 08-01-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Tail-posting is rude.

My brain hurts.... High-tech museum brings creationism to life

Please define 'tail posting'.

08-01-2006, 11:38 PM

When you post without reading the previous posts in the thread.

wolf · 08-02-2006, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Q: Who founded Rome?
A: God caused Rome to be founded

Gods, not the God of the Hebrews.

I checked twice, and I can't find the chapter in Genesis where Romulus and Remus were suckled by the She-Wolf.

wolf · 08-02-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

When you post without reading the previous posts in the thread.

I still don't get it, but I really don't give a shit.

08-02-2006, 01:37 AM

A tail-poster is someone who comes in and posts something which has already been resolved, showing that they, obviously, have not read previous posts.
Tail-posting onto the thread instead of reading the whole thing first.
In this case I had already changed my view on the subject and moved-on, in the other camp... then V comes along and starts arguing with me, quoting an old post, not having read the ones that came after it.
Tail-posting onto the end of the thread.
It is just how it sounds.

wolf · 08-02-2006, 01:48 AM

Message board posting is just like that ... it's not a linear conversation. People come into a thread at different times, and even if you consider some point resolved, they may not, or just want their two cents heard, or to support another poster with whom they are in agreement.

08-02-2006, 02:01 AM

You just don't get it. Don't worry about it.

08-02-2006, 02:13 AM

The Stirring On The Mount
St. Helens used in drive to prove biblical creation with science

Happy Monkey · 08-02-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

If you tell an intelligent student that evolution occurs over extremely long stretches of time, then say that it is caused by discrete events such as genetic isolation from others of the same species combined with environmental changes it's only natural that the student will want to know exactly how an event which is a few tens of years in duration can provide genetic pressure for the millions of years we were told was needed that is great enough for specification but not so great that it kills off the animals(*deep breath*).

Who says that genetic isolation or environmental changes only last a few decades? And you don't need any particularly "great" pressure for speciation, just the separation. Both groups are then under their own normal pressures, and there is no pressure to keep them in synch if they aren't interbreeding, so they diverge.

Yes, it would have been nice if he could have explained that, but it's a question that is worded in a way that might trip up someone without a good grasp of the material, and as you say:

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Now, the guy wasn't the brightest bulb in the lamp (I haven't run into alot of highschool science teachers that could explain past the textbook) and he probably only used the textbook for reference, but if you want me to learn something then at least let me point out where I need some more info.

Nothing else in the textbook has organizations arming students with tricky questions to stump the teacher. My guess is you would have found him just as "dogmatic" with any other chapter if subjected to the same level of questioning.

Pangloss62 · 08-02-2006, 08:18 AM

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The Bible is not to be taken literally.

I understand that there might be stories in the bible that relate to actual events, perhaps even a boat with animals, but the problem is that many creation scientists DO take the Noah story literally, so much so that they create Noah's Ark Feasibility Studies! You guys gotta check this out:

http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/ark/index.htm

Kitsune · 08-02-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62

DO take the Noah story literally, so much so that they create Noah's Ark Feasibility Studies!

What are you talking about? Feasibility studies? They found the thing!

Flint · 08-02-2006, 08:23 AM

I will state, without shame, that I absolutely do not feel any moral obligation to always read an entire thread before posting - especially if the thread is running up to multiple pages. I am at work. I am here, at this site, for light entertainment. In the interest of moving a conversation along, I do make an attempt to gather the context of the discussion, and not waste time re-hashing tired subjects. Unless I have something new to add, that is. Ultimately the decision is mine, and the decision is up to every user as to how they want to use the site, as long as they are following the rules. Now of course we would not enjoy the site if total anarchy erupted and every thread became a string of selfish stream-of-conciousness rants. But, there is a middle ground. For instance, I have not read much of this thread, but I am responding to a particular aspect of it. I may go back and read more if I choose to devote my time to a deeper level of participation. Or, I may post a one-off observation. It is really up to me.

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Originally Posted by wolf

Message board posting is just like that ... it's not a linear conversation. People come into a thread at different times, and even if you consider some point resolved, they may not, or just want their two cents heard, or to support another poster with whom they are in agreement.

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You just don't get it. Don't worry about it.

I think wolf gets it just fine. Maybe you don't get what she is saying.

Spexxvet · 08-02-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62

I understand that there might be stories in the bible that relate to actual events, perhaps even a boat with animals, but the problem is that many creation scientists DO take the Noah story literally, so much so that they create Noah's Ark Feasibility Studies! You guys gotta check this out:

http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/ark/index.htm

Nice... waste management

Spexxvet · 08-02-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Gods, not the God of the Hebrews.

I checked twice, and I can't find the chapter in Genesis where Romulus and Remus were suckled by the She-Wolf.

Isn't God responsible for ALL things? Didn't He design our universe so that Romulus and Remus founded Rome? And since he did, is it not right and righteous to give Him credit and worship Him through Jeeeezusss Christ, our Lord and Savior? *genuflects*[/sarcasm]

I think Jesus' philosophy on how to live your life is a good way to live your life. I try to live my life that way, and I think I do a fairly good job of it. But the whole magic aspect of the Judeo-Christian God is just a little too far-fetched for me. Raising from the dead? Pu-leeze! If "God" was the name of the alien leader, in the mother ship named "Heaven", the bible stories would make as much sense. A bright light shines down on Saul? Boy, that doesn't remind you of Close Encounters, does it? (I know - it's a movie).

xoxoxoBruce · 08-02-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

What are you talking about? Feasibility studies? They found the thing!

The site starts with

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Friends, please prayerfully consider the evidence you will see on Noah's Ark.

which sends up the red flags for me.

And because the turkish goverment says, Yup, it's an old boat, that makes it the Ark.

08-02-2006, 01:48 AM	#36
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Message board posting is just like that ... it's not a linear conversation. People come into a thread at different times, and even if you consider some point resolved, they may not, or just want their two cents heard, or to support another poster with whom they are in agreement. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-01-2006, 11:38 PM	#32
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	When you post without reading the previous posts in the thread.

08-02-2006, 01:37 AM	#35
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	A tail-poster is someone who comes in and posts something which has already been resolved, showing that they, obviously, have not read previous posts. Tail-posting onto the thread instead of reading the whole thing first. In this case I had already changed my view on the subject and moved-on, in the other camp... then V comes along and starts arguing with me, quoting an old post, not having read the ones that came after it. Tail-posting onto the end of the thread. It is just how it sounds.

08-02-2006, 02:01 AM	#37
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	You just don't get it. Don't worry about it.

08-02-2006, 02:13 AM	#38
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	The Stirring On The Mount St. Helens used in drive to prove biblical creation with science

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