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Well ... at least it got the Historical designation.
Maybe its a geographic thing & I don't really understand. Is it a major ... err was it a major commerce issue or ???
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I think it is important for two reasons...
First, it sets the stage for forcing repairs of the locks ( otherwise nothing would happen), ... either via the Army Corp and/or via State/County/Metro $ Second, Schnitzer Steel Corp is a major Oregon industry, and has facilities in Eugene (upstream / south) of PDX. There were defense heavy industries in Albany. The locks were an integral part of their operations. And all other shipping is now blocked - remember Howard Hughes' "Spruce Goose" being moved to Oregon in 1993. Plus, it sort of tickles me that Oregonians are threatening the Army Corp of Engineers. "If you're not going to take care of with your toys, we'll take 'em away from you" ![]() |
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PDX has a layer of regional government called METRO,
that was born out of a need for public transportation over 3 County juridictions. The original idea was to encourage the public to not drive cars to work, but instead to take public transportation, mainly buses. So... The entire downtown Portland area was a free-zone. You could board a bus anywhere and get off anywhere in this zone without paying. Outside this zone were three rings of fares, and your ticket was set by how many zones your trip entered. Fares were set a very attractive, low levels. But over the years they increased gradually. This month the METRO Council did away with the free zone and all three fare zones, so there is now a single fare to get onto any bus to go anywhere. Plus, you have to have the exact fare, because the drivers no longer make change. The new fare is set at $2.50 ![]() WTF does this current Council think is going to happen to ridership ? $2.50 for a few blocks hop down to the store, and another $2.50 to get back home ! ![]() Why ? To pay for the construction and operation of the new "light rail" trains The future ? There is a huge political backlash forming to prevent the METRO and/or County governments from initiating any new construction or transportation projects without a vote with public approval. . |
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ride free area expiring in downtown seattle at the end of the month.
somewhat worrying is the transition to the Orca card, "one card to ride them all" or somesuch. it is reloadable and uses rfid. so far so good. but it's completely trackable. it is possible to track the usage the card including what routes and what times, and presumably the movements of the cardholder. but not really. what if *I* get a card in my name, but then give it to my son? SonofV's mother can get an Orca card from her employer, but she is reluctant to do so and give it to him, since the company intends the card to be used by the employee for commuting to and from work. since he'd be using it in a completely different pattern, he said she said they said they'd just turn it off. I don't like this aspect of a cashless society.
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Here's a short, but good, article about the farmers' traditional dilemma.
It's a reasonable discussion of the push-pull forces of northwest mega-corporations, farm cooperatives, union and non-union workers, and local governments ... each following the dictum: "All politics is local" The Oregonian Richard Read October 27, 2012 Wheat growers nervously watch Northwest grain talks, hoping to avoid longshore lockout Quote:
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My post above is representative of the city where I've lived for 36 yrs.
It is in turmoil over a similar sequence of events mentioned in the article. Like other cities, we have railroad tracks crossing major roadways. Now talks are underway to convert/add those tracks into "high speed" rails for trains carrying coal to a coastal port in southern Oregon. The NIMBY crowd in this small, highly affluent and influential bedroom community of PDX are gathering. ... a new bridge... jobs... noise... coal dust... d-a-n-g-e-r... think of OUR children... It remains to be seen whether this island of suburbia can divert the proposal over to one of the "other" towns along the river. |
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As I understand it this started a year ago when this new monster grain handling facility built by EGT, a joint venture between one of the big three agribusiness giants Bunge North America, Japanese trading company ITOCHU and Korean shipper STX Pan Ocean, with a big dose of taxpayer money, initially opened negotiations with the longshore union, but then broke off negotiations and sued the port over its right to hire other workers.
In July, the company hired contractor General Construction Co. to operate the $200 million terminal with 25 to 35 members of the Gladstone-based International Union of Operating Engineers Local 701, in violation of the port agreement. EGT relented when the longshoremen, with the help of Occupy Portland and support of a number of other are unions effectively shut down the port, but demanded concessions. Now the other terminals are following EGT's lead in demanding concessions from the unions.
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Sightline Daily Eric de Place June 5, 2012 China Turns Away Coal Shipments Why you can't count on coal markets. Quote:
But even those in support of the terminal have their doubts. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS October 03, 2012 Quote:
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Explain to me this one...
The city where I live prides itself on it's manicured lawns and it's "private" lake, expensive houses, low crime rate, but mostly it is proud of it's good ("best in the state") schools. There were only two tax $-related referendums on the ballot this time. One was to create a median strip with trees and flowers, down a major roadway, the other was to build an new library because the old one was inadequate to meet the needs of the community. Which one do you think passed and which one failed... think hypocritically. ![]() |
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... police accountability to the communuity Portland Tribune December 18. 2012 City, feds file agreement on police use-of-force issues Quote:
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This was my first post on this topic... there are some follow up postings to help understand the situation.
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Today was a significant day in this push-me/pull-you: KATU Steven DuBois, Associated Press Dec 24, 2012 Longshoremen soundly reject contract offer Quote:
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