The Race Card

[tw]

I was thinking of playing a race card. But I don't understand how to best do a trifecta. Can anyone help?

[jimhelm]

to help, one must have useable pertinent data. presented is a vague problem and no facts. Most good race cards come with onboard diagnostics. consult the race card manual or look online for diagnostic software here

Failing that, use a multi meter to verify that all of the components of the race card are functioning to spec. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahyour'eallfuckedup.

[Sundae]

Ummmm.
I thought TW was funny.

He can be.
Sometimes very.

[jimhelm]

i was being ironic?

[tw]

I was thinking of selecting Jews to win, blacks to place, and Muslims to show.

[jimhelm]

wait a minute... Jews have been treated as a race, even though strictly speaking, they are not. Muslims, though.... I have never thought of them as a race. Unless you actually mean Middle Easterners. What race are those folks anyway? Asian? African? I mean physiologically.

[Aliantha]

You don't have to be so pedantic do you Jim? It was just a joke...

[jimhelm]

oh fer fux ache.

[Aliantha]

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by jimhelm

Muslims, though.... I have never thought of them as a race. Unless you actually mean Middle Easterners. What race are those folks anyway?

Well, I'm sure you're mostly kidding, but it's actually a fun question so I'm gonna take it seriously. It depends on how you define "race." to some people, there's white, black, asian, native american (some divide north and south, some don't), and aboriginal australian. Oceanic/polynesian people get lumped in with either asian or australian. most of the world would disagree with that. For example, most Africans wouldn't consider everyone with dark skin to be part of the same race - and to some extents, that's true, based on some genetic markers. However, ethnic extraction is a better question, I think. European "whites" are the most ethnically unified "race" - eastern europeans, scandinavians, germans, brits, all are more related to eachother than, say, people from far-reaching sides of africa, even if (to us) africans look more alike than russians and irish do. Every other "race" is wildly more varied, and to try to lump them all in as one THING is just stupid. But speaking to broad ethnic divisions among majority-muslim populations, there's Arabs, who populate much of the middle east, and hail originally from the Levant and the Arabian peninsula, and now also populate most of North Africa; Persians, who live in what's now Iran; Kurds, who live across Kurdistan in north Iraq and Turkey; and Turkic peoples who originally hail from central Russia, but now reside across Turkey and central asia. Outside the Middle East, ethnic groups with large Muslim populations include the Indus Valley peoples, who make up the Muslim population of India and Pakistan, and the south asian peoples who make up Indonesia and Malaysia.

[piercehawkeye45]

Science for the win

[tw]

Race - as relevant to earlier posts - is not about genetics, where one comes from, family history, etc. Racism is really about emotions.

One with black skin must be a different race even though his closest genetic cousin has white skin. Racism is about judging others only using first impressions. What some call 'race' has little relationship to racism. Only those who are more emotional will associate racism with genetics or ancestors. Then need not confront actual biases.

The emotional judge others by what is first observed combined with personal biases. A conclusion based in emotions (first impression) is the real definition of racism. Others who confront racism start by addressing that problem. Do not make conclusions based upon emotions.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Science for the win

I really hope I manage to peruse that to greater depth when i'm more sober later. Totally interesting. Does it contradict anything I was saying, so I can correct myself without having to read it too accurately?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Ibram

I really hope I manage to peruse that to greater depth when i'm more sober later. Totally interesting. Does it contradict anything I was saying, so I can correct myself without having to read it too accurately?

Of course it does, but as tw hinted, making statements about race using genetics is like trying to explain third grade physics with quantum mechanics. They both have different purposes.

[Sundae]

Given that Jewish religion passes down a family line, I think it's not unreasonable to class Jews as a race.

Could be wrong there and won't argue if someone contradicts me factually.