North Carolina bans gay marriage, Prez O endorses it!

[classicman]

Oh fuggit, I'll play along with you MTP - Here take a look for yourself at some numbers.

If that qualifies as "any evidence whatsoever" that is.

[Ibby]

I would call that, classic, close enough to worry about. I think Obama is very likely to win, but to go as far as feeling like it's a sure thing - its still way close enough that if enough left-leaners feel like it's a shoo-in, it could drive down turnout enough to let Romney eke out a win. Granted, yes, it's far out enough now that polling is less-than-perfect, but... I think Romney's gonna give him a run for his money, so to speak.
I get the impression that, though I look at you and see a (relative) conservative, or at least right-leaning independent, that you support Obama over Romney (which to me makes sense, because i look at OBAMA and see a moderate-conservative, compared to, like, mainstream liberals like Elizabeth Warren or my idol Bernie Sanders). If Obama has your vote, I'd hate to see him lose it because you or anyone else thinks he's sure to win and therefore not worth getting out there on voting day for.

[classicman]

1) What part of that is close?
Obama - 294
Toss - 74
Rom - 170

2) I specifically addressed her since she got all shitty with me.

3) I couldn't possibly be more apathetic about this election.
I'm less inclined to vote for O this time than last and Romney ... ugh I dunno how I could at this point.

[Ibby]

If he needs 270 to win, and there are "247 Strong Obama" votes... I'd call that contestable, this far out. Maybe you parse it differently, fine. But I'd call that close enough to worry about. Especially considering the effect money will have on this race.

[classicman]

Obama needs 23 and Mitt needs 100. Mitts been campaigning for 4 YEARS compared to Obama's 4 days... I don't see this as being close. I guess its all about perspective.

[infinite monkey]

Everything is perspective. Even math.

[Ibby]

I guess the difference is between your use of the word "close" and mine of "contestable". Given the distance from the election and the twists, turns, and outside events that could affect the race... I think Mitt hasn't LOST already. There's some conceivable path he could take that would win him the election, against today's odds. That's what I mean by contestable.

[morethanpretty]

I'm confused admittedly. I thought classic meant that obama was gonna be blown out of office. Anyone else read it that way?

[classicman]

whatever.

Romney has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Hes behind by over 120 and there are really only 74 in play.

Do you really understand what has to happen for him to win?
You've got better odds of tw & Merc playing tiddlywinks while having tea on a Sunday.

ETA: Do you even understand how the electoral college works?

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by classicman

whatever.

Romney has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Hes behind by over 120 and there are really only 74 in play.

Do you really understand what has to happen for him to win?
You've got better odds of tw & Merc playing tiddlywinks while having tea on a Sunday.

ETA: Do you even understand how the electoral college works?

Wow, your rudeness was completely uncalled for. I was being a bit sassy but you're being outright mean.
Go take a bath or something to calm down.

And yes I do.

[regular.joe]

Originally Posted by classicman

whatever.

Romney has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Hes behind by over 120 and there are really only 74 in play.

Do you really understand what has to happen for him to win?
You've got better odds of tw & Merc playing tiddlywinks while having tea on a Sunday.

ETA: Do you even understand how the electoral college works?

Hey, it could happen! On another note, the vote in NC only proves that there are more conservative christians who vote living in NC then not. What is scary is that a religious agenda is now part of a state constitution.

[Ibby]

Of course I understand the electoral effin' college. And I also understand that every single "lean obama" state in that site's ranking - along with Pennsylvania, if the republican voter suppression/electoral splitting measures pass, and Nevada, according to other polling aggregates i've seen - is very much winnable by Romney, with a little luck and a lot of elbow grease (and by elbow grease I mean PAC money). Just because Obama's ahead half a mile into the marathon doesn't mean he's won, or that it's not worth watching.

ETA: are you honestly saying you think there's no way a republican could win VIRGINIA?

[classicman]

That post wasn't directed at you, Ibs.

ETA - But to answer your reply
Pennsylvania - Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
Nevada - highly unlikely.
To use your own phrase - Obama's ahead half a mile with about a 1/4 mile to go.
You're buying into the BS again.

[Ibby]

I retract my umbrage, then, except on MTP's behalf. But my point stands. I still don't think its quite a blowout yet. Once we get into september, october, and the numbers STILL look like they do now - then, it's in the bag. As yet, there's still a race to run.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by Ibram

I retract my umbrage, then, except on MTP's behalf. But my point stands. I still don't think its quite a blowout yet. Once we get into september, october, and the numbers STILL look like they do now - then, it's in the bag. As yet, there's still a race to run.

Thanks ibz, although its my fault for even trying. I guess snarkiness by using someone's own terminology is just being shitty. I guess I should never point out the lack of evidence behind someone's claim.