baltimore

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by glatt

That video of the mom smacking her son for throwing rocks at police is both horrifying and awesome at the same time. It's great that she's trying to get control of her kid, but it's also clear who he learned his violence from.

That's complete bullshit, you're projecting your personal feelings on corporal punishment onto this mother and son. Where's your proof she has EVER hit that kid, in his entire fucking life, until she caught him throwing rocks at the cops? You live a white privilege life in the richest county in the entire fucking country, and don't have a clue what their life is about. So stick your self righteous red herring in your ear.

[Lamplighter]

xoB seems to be on a kick of having people stick things into themselves.

At least for Glatt, it was only his ear.

[gvidas]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Technically, the construction site where granny might eventually have gone for bingo. AND, apparently, might eventually have lived.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...0-2442fe94f7ff

Fire not related to looting, official says

Julie Zauzmer · April 27, 9:27 PM

The three-alarm fire raging several miles away from protests that have turned violent in Baltimore is not related to the unrest, fire department spokesman Samuel Johnson said.

Johnson said that the fire, which was first reported at 8:49 p.m., appeared to be related to nearby construction. He did not know what started the fire.

The building was unoccupied when it caught fire, he said.

Johnson said that 94 firefighters were on the scene as of about 9:25 p.m.

[Gravdigr]

Not just Baltimore, but:

[DanaC]

Ha!

That is a good point.

People - even reasonable, law-abiding, gentle people, can be very different in a crowd. It shifts the dynamic.

I've been involved in several major demonstrations, mainly when I was much younger. Several of them turned nasty (the big Poll Tax demo in London in 1990, for example - and the anti-racism demo after the first BNP councillor was elected to a seat on the Isle of Dogs).

The poll tax demo turned into a full on riot, with around a quarter of a million marchers and full on riot police, with shields and batons, mounted police and police dogs. It was mayhem. It was terrifying - and was exhilirating.

The sense of righteous anger and collective response was powerful. It is a very strange feeling - being involved in a riot. It's like you become part of some larger organism. Really weird.

[Lamplighter]

"...It was terrifying - and was exhilirating..."

Great expression ! Next time you need to invite all of us too.

[Lamplighter]

Only rarely do I pay attention to the NY Times' "Quotation of the Day"
But I hope they are usually better than this one...

QUOTATION OF THE DAY
"There was a lot of economic damage. But the greater damage is to the future.
How many retailers will want to come to Baltimore?
How many conventions will stay away? How many hotel rooms will stay empty?"

ANIRBAN BASU, a Baltimore economist, on the arson, looting and riots that erupted
after the funeral of Freddie Gray, a black man who died in police custody.

This guy just doesn't get it... it's not about the $



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[Undertoad]

perfect time to visit the National Aquarium will be over the next few months. I haven't been in about 5 years or so. Wow normally it's impossible to get mid-day tickets. I bet you could get them today.

[henry quirk]

Dana,

“presuppose a sense of community which includes shops and businesses”

Doesn’t take a sense of community to understand (before you set the fire) that burning out a business you rely on is not in your best interest…what it takes is a little ‘thinking’ and a lot less ‘feeling’.


“collective response”

I see this any time a gaggle of kids get together…the high spirits of one infect the others and before long you got a ‘pack’.

I expect adults (young and old) to resist such impulses…my expectations are, I suppose, unrealistic.

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Happy Monkey,

“Essentially, you lied to your nephew.”

I answered his question honestly, in a way he can understand, using the information available at the time.

I may be mistaken in my assessments but I didn’t lie.

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Lamp,

“Should that be interpreted that it is OK to settle grievances against law enforcement, so long as only the jails, the police stations, cop cars, or local cop's personal houses... are torched ?”

You can interpret as you like…what I say is: if you have a beef, take it up with the one who has insulted or damaged you, not with innocent folks and certainly not by doing self-injury (and, mebbe, if you aren't party to the insult or injury you ought to just butt the fuck out).


“This guy just doesn't get it... it's not about the $”

I disagree…but: even if you’re right ‘today’ he will most certainly be right ‘tomorrow’.

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Toad,

“your basic philosophy”

What is my ‘basic philosophy’?


“I assure you it doesn't.”

I disagree, but: as you like.

[tw]

Nobody can honestly say we did not see this coming. A Cambridge professor is harassed by a cop because the professor was trying to get into his house. We have seen this both nationally and I have watched local municipal meetings where residents were complaining about same - in an upscale residential community for one.

[tw]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

As for having a stake: again, 'to burn out the pharmacy where you get your medicines, the grocery where you get your food, and the old folks' homes where your granny lives is craziness.'

You have assumed all adults act like adults. A substancial number are still children. So you see them buying miracle herbs at the health food stores, smoking cigarettes to increase health, and actually believing Saddam had WMDs only because that was the first thing they were told - without any facts or numbers.

Many if not most adults still make decisions like children - based in their feelings - reality (or considering the consequences) be damned. These adults live for the moment - like a child.

[henry quirk]

"You have assumed all adults act like adults."

Yeah, as I say above: 'my expectations are, I suppose, unrealistic.'

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

“Should that be interpreted that it is OK to settle grievances against law enforcement,
so long as only the jails, the police stations, cop cars, or local cop's personal houses... are torched ?”

You can interpret as you like…what I say is:
if you have a beef, take it up with the one who has insulted or damaged you,
not with innocent folks and certainly not by doing self-injury
(and, mebbe, if you aren't party to the insult or injury you ought to just butt the fuck out).

Again, you are changing the basic issue of this thread...

How do you, HQ, settle your "beef" with this neighbor cop
who is "the one who has insulted or damaged you" ?
So far, you have only proposed "mebbe" setting his house on fire
(with him in it).

I posit to you that you can't.
... not without some way of engaging others who "aren't party to the insult or injury",
or relying on laws/rules of society which you usually disdain.

[henry quirk]

Lamp,

What it is about being a cop that insulates him or her from a bullet to the head?

What is about being a cop that insulates his or her house from burning?

Nuthin' and nuthin'.

I suspect your respect for (or fear of) law enforcers has you thinkin' they're better, bigger, smarter, stronger, than they are.

Cops are just people.

Just ask the families and friends of cops killed on, and off, duty.

And: I'm not the one "changing the basic issue of (my) thread". Go back to my first post, read what follows from others, point (and wag) your finger at them (and yourself).

[Spexxvet]

They rioted, and 5 were killed by authorities. Then they entered a business and destroyed goods that were intended for them to buy. Then they violently attacked the authorities.

What a bunch of a-holes, right Henry?