The Double-Standard Rant

[Iggy]

Oh, and just so you know since we live in an apartment complex we have to walk two buildings over to take out the trash. If all I had to do was walk outside I would take the trash out myself and not bother him. But carrying it all that way isn't fun for me, and since I do 90% of the cleaning in the apartment taking out the trash became his chore to help out so I don't feel taken advantage of.

[Flint]

Not content with the status quo, Pelosi told her fellow Democrats that "there's going to be a lot of changes in the way we communicate" after the Congressional recess. According to Pelosi, deliberations on the House floor will be based on "total candor" about "what Congress is really feeling about individual pieces of legislation, the motives behind the voting, and the tone of the discussion." If she feels the talks have failed, Pelosi plans to alert the 434 other representatives of her displeasure by doing nothing for several weeks and then bursting into tears in the middle of House debates on agricultural subsidies.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Oh, and just so you know since we live in an apartment complex we have to walk two buildings over to take out the trash. If all I had to do was walk outside I would take the trash out myself and not bother him. But carrying it all that way isn't fun for me, and since I do 90% of the cleaning in the apartment taking out the trash became his chore to help out so I don't feel taken advantage of.

Doen't matter how far....if he said he would, he should.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Ah, but -- if shit molecules settle on nearby surfaces, then closing the lid will expose one to more than twice as many shit molecule encounters.

Your method two, each puts the seat into whatever configuration they need, one has a 50-50 chance of touching one "area", the seat.

Your method one, one must always lift the lid, 100%, and then men must also lift the seat an increased number of times. One must also close the lid thus encountering another shit molecule event. Unfair to all, but even more unfair to men.

Method three, therefore: the lid is always down, but the men pee in the sink. This, all should agree, is the most equitable arrangement.

A urinal in every house!

Keeping the lid down keeps shit molecules in the shitter. If you flush with the lid up, the shit molecules get on your toothbrush and stuff - eewwwwww! So, if you want to leave the lid up, don't flush.

[Shawnee123]

If you flush with the lid up, the shit molecules get on your toothbrush and stuff

That's OK, I clean the toilet with my toothbrush anyway...EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

My brother stopped by the other night and commented that you could tell a guy didn't live there because there was a pretty-fuzzy-toilet lid cozy...which men hate because I guess it causes the seat to fall down.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

That's OK, I clean the toilet with my toothbrush anyway...EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

My brother stopped by the other night and commented that you could tell a guy didn't live there because there was a pretty-fuzzy-toilet lid cozy...which men hate because I guess it causes the seat to fall down.

Women should hate it more, cause it gets peeed on more.

Fuzzy toilet lids are of the devil.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Women should hate it more, cause it gets peeed on more.

I can almost understand you (wonderful) dudes missing the toilet and hitting the floor, but now you're saying you hit the lid that's up too? Do you have any control of those things whatsoever? Is it like trying to hold onto a fire hose? Can you get some friends to help your aim?

Fuzzy lids do not stay up... they perform no function, other than negative ones, like looking stupid and slamming down..

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Well yeah, but that is why if he does it two days in a row I don't particularly care. But if it gets to 3 or more (generally speaking) you can't ignore it because it smells up the apartment. That is why I want it gone. So I almost always take it out myself if he lets it go that long.

Part of the problem is I don't want to nag, so I can't really remind him because he might think I am nagging. I usually remind him two days in a row (once a day) and after that if it doesn't happen I take it out myself (unless it is super heavy for some reason) and tell him I took it out. He will then usually say he is sorry, he really meant to do it, but it is just annoying to me sometimes. No big deal really.

If I at home and I ask him to do it and he doesn't, then I start getting ready to take it out and he usually does it for me. But we work slightly different schedules so most of the time I say something in passing or the night before. So I am not really surprised that he forgets. I just can't stand the smell of old garbage...

The trick is to ask him right as he's leaving the house ("Will you take out the trash on your way out?"). If the trashbag is full the night before, I tie it up and leave it by the door--so if I forget to ask, it's usually noticed and gets taken out anyway.

Yup, don't give him a chance to get distracted.

[DanaC]

When me and Judah lived together, housework was a constant bone of contention. I eventually got sick of asking, nagging, pleading, sulking,making a joke of, asking nicely; none of which resulted in anything but the most desultary attempt on his part. He wold wash pots and they'd need washing again.....he would tidy up by shoving everything that was not on a shelf into the one creaking drawer.

I tried to play the "right, let's see how long it takes for him to get sick of the mess and never having any clean plates" trick.....I quietly went on strike. After a week and a half I couldn't take it any more and cleaned up. he didn't notice.

But.....when my eczema went crazy and my hands were cracked and sore,and any dust set my eyes streaming: he washed up, he hoovered and did the dusting etc. He still didn't spot when things needed doing, but if i started to do a task, he'd leap up and take over....or if I asked him he'd do it without arguing, just as soon as his programme had finished.

:P

What's really funny, is that now we are no longer living together, he has turned into a clean freak and I live in a mess :P

[limey]

I suppose what really irks me is that for any task that is regular but not daily (i.e. do some laundry, fill the coal hod or kindlers bucket) I have to ask. (Best Beloved does notice when he can fit nothing more in the bin and takes out the trash at that point.). If you can have "do the dishes" on a daily check list, why not "Check status of hod, bucket and laundry basket" too?
Is there really a biological difference which means that women notice that these things need doing and men don't?
And, in case you're wondering, I ask BB to do these things as politely as though we hadn't already agreed they are part of his responsibilities, and as though I hadn't already asked him to do it without me asking (i.e. no mind reading expected).

[BigV]

Originally Posted by SteveDallas

It works out well until one of the males is standing there just trying to take care of business, and the seat falls down and injures him.
--snip--

!! don't kneel while peeing, eh?

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by BigV

!! don't kneel while peeing, eh?

Or is it just that big?