Avatar in IMAX - Page 4

skysidhe · 01-05-2010, 08:34 PM

good point dar

richlevy · 01-05-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Having worked with fonts a lot, this choice is like building an awesome 12 room mansion and then choosing that shitty 1/8" wood paneling to put up in every room. Sure, most people will not notice... I'm worried it will take me out of the movie.

It's like Die Hard 2 where every other plot detail was ludicrous if you had any flight training. Sure, most people are not pilots or prospective pilots...

I don't think you need to be a pilot to realize that the chances of a lit trail of jet fuel overtaking a jet taking off and traveling 50 feet off the ground to ignite a fuel tank is implausible.

richlevy · 01-05-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

So the advertising is affecting you. Negatively, but you're still letting it affect you.

I agree with Dar, Flint. I like taking the path less traveled too, but sometimes following the sheep does lead to greener pastures.

If it will help any, I absolutely forbid you, under any circumstances, from going to see Avatar.

Clodfobble · 01-05-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

I don't think you need to be a pilot to realize that the chances of a lit trail of jet fuel overtaking a jet taking off and traveling 50 feet off the ground to ignite a fuel tank is implausible.

But Mythbusters did that one, just in case.

Pie · 01-06-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

I think it is hysterical that hundreds of design geeks are going to sit around and bash an element choice in a film that has already made over a billion dollars. Geez, Mr Cameron, what were you thinking?

Still, that's not the point. Every other aspect of the visual production was scrubbed and polished and gleaming and perfect. Then they throw in, oh, I dunno... Clumpy mascara on a vamped-up supermodel? Artisan salumi with wonderbread? A pine-scented air freshener hanging from the mirror of a Lamborghini?

Still tacky.

And I don't care how much goddamn money Mr. Cameron is worth. He put out a work of art to be judged by the public. I have made my judgment, and in a few small, specific areas, found his creation to be ...wanting.

Flint · 01-06-2010, 01:05 PM

I’m not trying to be non-conformist, I simply don’t think I can enjoy the movie when the act of watching it has been forced to be an analysis of what I am seeing on the screen versus the expectations created by an unrelenting, overly specific media campaign. The entire movie will be an out-of-the-moment experience. A meta-movie, about itself.

That, and when I actually saw a preview of the movie, it looked dumb. The recently-reformed, reluctant hero fights against impossible odds to save the idyllic utopian society from being destroyed by the military-industrial, shoot-em-up bad guys? Wow. My life won’t be complete until I see how that turns out.

Shawnee123 · 01-06-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I’m not trying to be non-conformist, I simply don’t think I can enjoy the movie when the act of watching it has been forced to be an analysis of what I am seeing on the screen versus the expectations created by an unrelenting, overly specific media campaign. The entire movie will be an out-of-the-moment experience. A meta-movie, about itself.

That, and when I actually saw a preview of the movie, it looked dumb. The recently-reformed, reluctant hero fights against impossible odds to save the idyllic utopian society from being destroyed by the military-industrial, shoot-em-up bad guys? Wow. My life won’t be complete until I see how that turns out. I MUST SEE IT.

OH gawd, what he said.

Someone said something about "neat effects, predictable storyline." ORLY? I never would have thunk.

Oh, and I thought Titanic was formulaic drivel, too.

dar512 · 01-06-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Wow. My life won’t be complete until I see how that turns out.

And you went to Titanic to see how it would end?

As Ebert says, what makes a movie great is not what it says but how it says it.

Flint · 01-06-2010, 01:20 PM

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And you went to Titanic to see how it would end?

No, I didn't see it.

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As Ebert says, what makes a movie great is not what it says but how it says it.

I disagree 100%. What makes a classic (a classic anything) is substance.

On further reflection, I think you are mis-applying the intent of that quote. There IS a transcendant art to any field of craft, wherein the mind of the artist is evident in the creation, and the finished work is simply a conduit for the creative will of the artist. In that regard, "how" he says something is the important part.

Shawnee123 · 01-06-2010, 01:22 PM

Oh agreed. How does one get there? I didn't find the story behind the story in Titanic to be the block-busting romantic heartbreaking climax most others found it to be.

If the only way a story can say it is through great graphics, well, then, it's not a story to me, just eye candy for the masses.

I'm sure Avatar has its points, and I'm sure it's visually stunning. It's just not for me. But most here would hate the movies I like, so we're even.

Flint · 01-06-2010, 01:29 PM

I like good movies, so...

Shawnee123 · 01-06-2010, 01:30 PM

You're not most others...

Cloud · 01-06-2010, 01:32 PM

I hate "dramas" and movies with "substance." Give me a visually entertaining, action-packed, rollicking romp any day over deep meaning and intricate storytelling.

If I wanted a "good" movie . . . I'd read a book.

Pie · 01-06-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

If I wanted a good movie . . . I'd read a book.

Shawnee123 · 01-06-2010, 01:36 PM

Substance doesn't preclude rollicking romp.

Oh, you mean like Fan Fiction?

01-06-2010, 01:05 PM	#51
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I’m not trying to be non-conformist, I simply don’t think I can enjoy the movie when the act of watching it has been forced to be an analysis of what I am seeing on the screen versus the expectations created by an unrelenting, overly specific media campaign. The entire movie will be an out-of-the-moment experience. A meta-movie, about itself. That, and when I actually saw a preview of the movie, it looked dumb. The recently-reformed, reluctant hero fights against impossible odds to save the idyllic utopian society from being destroyed by the military-industrial, shoot-em-up bad guys? Wow. My life won’t be complete until I see how that turns out. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-06-2010, 01:22 PM	#55
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Oh agreed. How does one get there? I didn't find the story behind the story in Titanic to be the block-busting romantic heartbreaking climax most others found it to be. If the only way a story can say it is through great graphics, well, then, it's not a story to me, just eye candy for the masses. I'm sure Avatar has its points, and I'm sure it's visually stunning. It's just not for me. But most here would hate the movies I like, so we're even. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby Last edited by Shawnee123; 01-06-2010 at 01:29 PM.

01-06-2010, 01:29 PM	#56
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I like good movies, so... __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-06-2010, 01:30 PM	#57
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You're not most others... __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-06-2010, 01:32 PM	#58
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I hate "dramas" and movies with "substance." Give me a visually entertaining, action-packed, rollicking romp any day over deep meaning and intricate storytelling. If I wanted a "good" movie . . . I'd read a book. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

01-05-2010, 08:34 PM	#46
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	good point dar

01-06-2010, 01:36 PM	#60
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Substance doesn't preclude rollicking romp. Oh, you mean like Fan Fiction? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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