Dan Rather Commentary - Page 4

Cairo · 12-04-2002, 01:46 AM

True, HB,
I should have explained that my capital RATS in Democrats means Socialist Dems, post JFK...
DemocRATS are politically driven to gain power over We the People at the expense of what is in the best interest of America.

In my opinion, Truman, maybe FDR, but definately Truman would by definition,be a Republican today.

hermit22 · 12-04-2002, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by Cairo
True, HB,
I should have explained that my capital RATS in Democrats means Socialist Dems, post JFK...
DemocRATS are politically driven to gain power over We the People at the expense of what is in the best interest of America.

In my opinion, Truman, maybe FDR, but definately Truman would by definition,be a Republican today.

FDR would be a Republican? Truman? I'd love to hear an explanation of that.

Also, and I know you didn't pick on tw for this Cairo, but I'd love to hear how it's ok for you to use the term "DemocRATS" and it's disrespectful for tw to use "George Jr.?" At least his is descriptive enough to make sense.

12-04-2002, 06:13 AM

Furthermore, how are your ad hominem attacks ("Jughead") justified? It is okay for you to attack one's character, but you cry foul when you perceive someone else to be doing the same?

Cairo, I think, fairly represents the extremists on the right side of the spectrum. Unfortunately, she's just as dangerous as those on the left side - though in different ways.

Hubris Boy · 12-04-2002, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Cairo
True, HB,
In my opinion, Truman, maybe FDR, but definately Truman would by definition,be a Republican today.

Well... you know what they say about opinions.

Even as we speak, the reanimated corpse of Harry Truman is stumbling toward you. Filled with a rage that even the power of the grave cannot contain, Harry is coming to rip your lungs out for even suggesting such a thing.

You know nothing of Harry Truman. You're not qualified to have an opinion about him. David McCullough wrote an excellent biography about Truman a few years ago. You should read it.

Hubris Boy · 12-04-2002, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Cairo
In my opinion, Truman, maybe FDR, but definately Truman would by definition, be a Republican today.

Wait. Perhaps I rushed to judgement earlier. There may have been a misunderstanding. Maybe we aren't talking about the same Harry Truman? Perhaps you were referring to some other Harry Truman that I've never heard of?

The Harry Truman I was talking about was the 33rd president of the United States. You know... the one who wanted to nationalize the American steel industry, make the government pay for everyone's health care, and end a railroad strike by drafting all the train crews into the Army.

This couldn't possibly be the Harry Truman that you think would be a Republican today, could it?

If not, I apologize for my earlier outburst.

If so, I stand by everything I said earlier. I would also hasten to add (in an ad hominem sort of way) that you are a mouthbreathing troglodyte, unencumbered by even the most rudimentary understanding of history, and I heartily wish that you'd shut the fuck up.

Thank you.

jaguar · 12-04-2002, 03:44 PM

*applauds hubris boy*
When you do contribute you certainly don't go for half-measures.

Tobiasly · 12-04-2002, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Hubris Boy
Harry is coming to rip your lungs out for even suggesting such a thing.

And when Harry gets tired, Marc Racicot can take over for a while, for sullying the name of the GOP..

warch · 12-04-2002, 05:45 PM

Geeze. I'm certainly no political expert and don't claim to be. That stated, Its frightening to me that even *I* seem to have a better grasp of elementary history and politics than the chattering Cairo and her spouse the alleged "teacher". Scary shit man. Thanks to those who have logged in hours of patient rebuttal to these yahoos. We dont have to agree, just refrain from being so painfully stupid.

Tobiasly · 12-04-2002, 06:58 PM

Now now, we need Cairo around here; let's not be too quick to bash. I'd say her absolute position from center is right about where tw's is, just in the opposite direction. And it certainly wouldn't be the Cellar without tw, now would it!

Tobiasly · 12-04-2002, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by hermit22
Also, and I know you didn't pick on tw for this Cairo, but I'd love to hear how it's ok for you to use the term "DemocRATS" and it's disrespectful for tw to use "George Jr.?" At least his is descriptive enough to make sense.

No one is saying that's not the case, although it sounds like DemocRATS has some meaning that Cairo hasn't fully explained.

elSicomoro · 12-04-2002, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tobiasly
Now now, we need Cairo around here

You know Tob, you are absolutely right.

I mean, jag and tw seem to go out of their way to look like asses on the left sometimes. Why not cairo for the right? Equal time is a good thing.

Griff · 12-04-2002, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by warch
..., just refrain from being so painfully stupid.

Did anyone else notice that Cairo was the first ever cellarite recipient of a warch discouraging word? Congratulations! Maybe we should work out a cellar political continuum, some ... oops UT already did that, should we send cairo to the test to quantify her polar opposition to the croc wrestler?

Undertoad · 12-04-2002, 08:06 PM

DemocRATS is a reference to an ad produced during the 2000 campaign season. The ad, created by the Republican Natl Cmte., scrolled the word "bureaucrats" in such a way that the "RATS" was emphasized and connected with the description of the Democrats' prescription plans. Ds called foul, saying that such dirty politicking made the Rs look bad. Rs said it was unintentional.

elSicomoro · 12-04-2002, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Griff
should we send cairo to the test to quantify her polar opposition to the croc wrestler?

Absolutely

Griff · 12-04-2002, 08:10 PM

I thought you were sleeping.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

12-04-2002, 01:46 AM	#46
Cairo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 91	True, HB, I should have explained that my capital RATS in Democrats means Socialist Dems, post JFK... DemocRATS are politically driven to gain power over We the People at the expense of what is in the best interest of America. In my opinion, Truman, maybe FDR, but definately Truman would by definition,be a Republican today. __________________ ______________________________ The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the World that he didn't exist. Keyser Soze

12-04-2002, 03:44 PM	#51
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	applauds hubris boy When you do contribute you certainly don't go for half-measures. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

12-04-2002, 08:10 PM	#60
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I thought you were sleeping. http://www.politicalcompass.org/ __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-04-2002, 06:13 AM	#48
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Furthermore, how are your ad hominem attacks ("Jughead") justified? It is okay for you to attack one's character, but you cry foul when you perceive someone else to be doing the same? Cairo, I think, fairly represents the extremists on the right side of the spectrum. Unfortunately, she's just as dangerous as those on the left side - though in different ways.

12-04-2002, 05:45 PM	#53
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Geeze. I'm certainly no political expert and don't claim to be. That stated, Its frightening to me that even I seem to have a better grasp of elementary history and politics than the chattering Cairo and her spouse the alleged "teacher". Scary shit man. Thanks to those who have logged in hours of patient rebuttal to these yahoos. We dont have to agree, just refrain from being so painfully stupid.

12-04-2002, 06:58 PM	#54
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	Now now, we need Cairo around here; let's not be too quick to bash. I'd say her absolute position from center is right about where tw's is, just in the opposite direction. And it certainly wouldn't be the Cellar without tw, now would it!

12-04-2002, 08:06 PM	#58
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	DemocRATS is a reference to an ad produced during the 2000 campaign season. The ad, created by the Republican Natl Cmte., scrolled the word "bureaucrats" in such a way that the "RATS" was emphasized and connected with the description of the Democrats' prescription plans. Ds called foul, saying that such dirty politicking made the Rs look bad. Rs said it was unintentional.

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