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Old 09-08-2003, 06:46 PM   #46
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Most everything I eat can be obtained without killing the plant itself also.
You must have a very limited diet. Grains and vegetables are almost impossible to harvest without killing the plant. Of course even if you do manage to pick things like beans and corn, the plant dies soon after producing the food anyway. The food was its attempt to reproduce before it dies
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Old 09-08-2003, 07:34 PM   #47
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You must have a very limited diet. Grains and vegetables are almost impossible to harvest without killing the plant. Of course even if you do manage to pick things like beans and corn, the plant dies soon after producing the food anyway. The food was its attempt to reproduce before it dies
Actually, in the case of grain, the plant is usually dead before it's harvested. Ever seen a wheat field all golden? The plant is already dead.

Furthermore, all fruit is harvested without killing the plant. I mean really, why cut down an orchard just to get the oranges? Which brings us to fruitatairans (sp), people who only eat fruit or product which they know is harvested without killing the plant.

You've also got to consider that many plants are annuals. Now me not being a botanist, I couldn't tell you which ones are and which are which, because I haven't looked into it.

But you're intentionally missing the point, which is fine. Like I said, I don't recruit. I do what I can; you do what you like.

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Old 09-08-2003, 09:42 PM   #48
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If I'm missing the point, it's not intentional.
I read your post and understood what you were saying but when you made that remark it struck me as odd because I know something about how food is produced and harvested.
I avoided mentioning fruit because it does not kill the plant, although it may be traumatized by having it's babies stolen.
I did mention annuals, beans and corn, remember.
I didn't get into legumes or tubers because I didn't want to belabor the point.
I also did not criticize or ridicule your choice of diet or lifesyle or philosophy. Whether I agree with it is irrelevant to my question or to you.
Have a nice day
Oh..BTW...those amber waves of grain, are not dead.
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Old 09-08-2003, 10:06 PM   #49
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Oh..BTW...those amber waves of grain, are not dead.
Hm, nifty. I guess you learn something new every day. I figured wheat was like grass. When it goes to seed and dries out, it usually dies, or at least appears to. I haven't pulled any up to see if the roots were alive.

Still, with fruit-type foods alone you could still have quite a variety. It wouldn't be as convenient as Micky-D's, but it could easily be done. If you're the Bible thumping type, consider the Garden of Eden. Why put people in a garden if they can't sustain themselves?

That being said, if they were smart, they'd have taken one of those handy "tree of life" fruits first before fucking themselves up talking to the snake...

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Old 09-08-2003, 11:29 PM   #50
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Aw that was all Eve's fault, the bitch.
When wheat and such is harvested the bottom of the stalks are still green. If you wait till the plant is completely dry the grain falls off to easily as in on the ground instead of in the hopper. Also there is too much chance of a good (bad) wind or storm knocking the stuff over before the reaper can get to it. Then you play hell trying to get it into the machine.
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Old 09-09-2003, 12:27 AM   #51
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      Instead of blaming Eve why don't we blame the one that put the snake in the garden in the first place. Who was that again?
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:19 AM   #52
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Could it be (drumroll) SATAN (rimshot).
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:01 AM   #53
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      Satan? How the did he get involved? I read the beginning of Genesis just last night. Satan's not mentioned...
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:42 AM   #54
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Like I said, I don't recruit. I do what I can; you do what you like.

Quzah.
That's important, the idea that one diet could be imposed on everybody, a fantasy held by some, is offensive and deadly. It is becoming apparent that along with shellfish, wheat, rye, spelt, kamut, and triticale make me ill. I decided to increase my grain intake a while back and apparently set off a gluten sensitivity. I'll stick with steak.
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Old 09-09-2003, 12:51 PM   #55
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If you go by a strict reading, it was the big G himself who put the serpent in the garden.

The problem with being the ultimate cause is you also get the ultimate blame.
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Old 09-09-2003, 02:03 PM   #56
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:18 PM   #57
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Griff! What? Kashi backlash? Ack!
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:56 PM   #58
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Griff! What? Kashi backlash? Ack!
'fraid so, nasty business, that. On the upside guilt free ham and eggs for breakfast rolled up in a corn tortilla with mozz cheese n habenero sauce mmmm... good stuff
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Old 09-10-2003, 01:54 AM   #59
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'fraid so, nasty business, that. On the upside guilt free ham and eggs for breakfast rolled up in a corn tortilla with mozz cheese n habenero sauce mmmm... good stuff
I've been following this thread form it's inception so I know how we got to this point, but I had to giggle when I glanced up to see "Indian bridge collapse" and here we are talking about breakfast foods . Anyway, Griff you're making me hungry. I think I'm gonna whip some of this stuff up for breakfast tomorrow, it sounds yummy
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Old 09-10-2003, 02:02 AM   #60
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The problem with being the ultimate cause is you also get the ultimate blame.
      Damn straight. O' course, I don't believe in the biblical god. If I did, that would definately be a major issue for me.
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