What's mildly irritating you today? - Page 433

xoxoxoBruce · 03-24-2018, 03:19 AM

Well if you want someone to compare defects with, I'm your man.

Gravdigr · 03-24-2018, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glinda

Their eyes get all big and they run out the door.

Wait...You're leaving them loose?

I think I see yer prollum.

Glinda · 03-25-2018, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Well if you want someone to compare defects with, I'm your man.

Misery loves company.

Truly though, this getting old shit is for the birds. Completely unacceptable. And I'm quite outraged that it's happening to me. I mean, I did not sign up for this.

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Wait...You're leaving them loose?

I think I see yer prollum.

The little fuckers move pretty quick, and my knees don't work so good anymore.

Undertoad · 04-04-2018, 04:39 PM

They fired my co-worker today for being late over and over and over again

A semi-talented dude is walking the streets cos they couldn't figure out how to get into his head and motivate him.

I could see what was needed: someone had to care a little bit, and just ask about his woes, and encourage him a little. It takes so little encouragement to get someone to do things differently. Caring is a basic human approach. Call it emotional intelligence. "Why are you *really* late, Rob? What's going on in your life?"

Lacking that skill, instead they transparently hired his replacement and waited for him to fuck up again. The trap was laid for months, all that had to happen was no change. And no change was encouraged. So they got what they apparently wanted.

In my time here so far, 3 people have been fired, 1 left "by agreement" (i.e., fired, but we're not saying that word), and 6 have left on their own. Out of 12. This means I am now amongst the senior staff. I'm here 2.5 years.

Flint · 04-04-2018, 05:14 PM

Sad. When I am habitually late, it is always because of transient life events escalating my baseline anxiety into a degenerative state of chronic stress-hormone-overload, making it prohibitively difficult to execute basic daily routines, like a functional sleep schedule.

Maybe I should just pull myself up by my bootstraps and have a more positive attitude! #wowthanksimcured

Undertoad · 04-04-2018, 08:56 PM

All people come with baggage, ergo all workers come with baggage. Any workplace should have a good-sized cargo area.

BigV · 04-04-2018, 10:23 PM

Well said, UT. Compartments help.

In my head, in my space, in my job.

sexobon · 04-04-2018, 11:31 PM

How's the replacement doing?

Glinda · 04-04-2018, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Sad. When I am habitually late, it is always because of transient life events escalating my baseline anxiety into a degenerative state of chronic stress-hormone-overload, making it prohibitively difficult to execute basic daily routines, like a functional sleep schedule.

Maybe I should just pull myself up by my bootstraps and have a more positive attitude! #wowthanksimcured

May I please put this on a t-shirt?

Griff · 04-05-2018, 07:21 AM

My work has taught me that basic kindness is lacking in homes, schools, and workplaces. I went to an invite only after hours "go away" party for a cow-orker. The old-timers were grumbling about the change in atmosphere, how they no longer believe that the boss has their back. That belief sustained them for years but losing that faith...

Undertoad · 04-05-2018, 08:03 AM

The replacement had to come in and be good enough for about a month before the firing could happen.

It took two months. It played out exactly as expected. It was transparent. I knew and even Rob knew. If Matthew comes in and is solid, Rob is in danger. He's now disposable. One more lateness and it's over.

He did well for a long time. Then his girlfriend started inviting another guy to Rob's apartment, to fuck in his bed.

He figured it out, and broke up with her. She then called the cops and alleged that there were drugs in his apartment.

They came the next morning and searched his apartment, and didn't allow him to make a phone call to work to say he'd be late.

I told him: it has actually worked out for you. You don't realize it right now, but you are minus two pathetic crazy bitches in your life. That will turn positive.

Gravdigr · 04-05-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

A semi-talented dude is walking the streets cos they couldn't figure out how to get into his head and motivate him.

"Be on time or lose your job." sounds like the strongest motivation an employer can supply.

Short of beatings when your late, and I'm not sure they can do that.

Most, (almost all, in fact) employers like for their employees to show up. On time.

Anyone can have stuff happen that causes them to be late. Occasionally.

You have my sympathy, for losing a good guy (sounds like) and cow orker, but, not the fired guy.

Perhaps Fired Guy's next employer will benefit from this. Maybe he'll be on time more consistently.

Undertoad · 04-05-2018, 03:50 PM

Wull

That's mostly true, but in software places it's usually a little different -- if you do a ton of work after hours, they generally do not care if you are around all the time during bidness hours.

Dude put in a solid year where he was super-motivated, and would check in from home and do little things that needed doing overnight. That's the team you want; where they organize around the work that needs to be done, not the HOURS that need to be worked.

Boss vs Leader: a boss is concerned with process; a leader is concerned with people. If the people are properly motivated and team-oriented, the process takes care of itself. It's way easier if you take care of the people. Because if you take care of the people, the entire staff doesn't turn over every 2 years, and all that information and experience isn't lost every 2 years.

Gravdigr · 04-05-2018, 03:54 PM

Oh, yeah...I ~~kinda~~ fergot what ya did fer a living.

Flint · 04-06-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Glinda

May I please put this on a t-shirt?

Go for it! The internet has made it easier for people to share their mental health experiences, and I love that.

03-24-2018, 03:19 AM	#6481
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Well if you want someone to compare defects with, I'm your man. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-04-2018, 05:14 PM	#6485
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Sad. When I am habitually late, it is always because of transient life events escalating my baseline anxiety into a degenerative state of chronic stress-hormone-overload, making it prohibitively difficult to execute basic daily routines, like a functional sleep schedule. Maybe I should just pull myself up by my bootstraps and have a more positive attitude! #wowthanksimcured __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-04-2018, 10:23 PM	#6487
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Well said, UT. Compartments help. In my head, in my space, in my job. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

04-05-2018, 07:21 AM	#6490
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	My work has taught me that basic kindness is lacking in homes, schools, and workplaces. I went to an invite only after hours "go away" party for a cow-orker. The old-timers were grumbling about the change in atmosphere, how they no longer believe that the boss has their back. That belief sustained them for years but losing that faith... __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-05-2018, 03:54 PM	#6494
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04-04-2018, 04:39 PM	#6484
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	They fired my co-worker today for being late over and over and over again A semi-talented dude is walking the streets cos they couldn't figure out how to get into his head and motivate him. I could see what was needed: someone had to care a little bit, and just ask about his woes, and encourage him a little. It takes so little encouragement to get someone to do things differently. Caring is a basic human approach. Call it emotional intelligence. "Why are you really late, Rob? What's going on in your life?" Lacking that skill, instead they transparently hired his replacement and waited for him to fuck up again. The trap was laid for months, all that had to happen was no change. And no change was encouraged. So they got what they apparently wanted. In my time here so far, 3 people have been fired, 1 left "by agreement" (i.e., fired, but we're not saying that word), and 6 have left on their own. Out of 12. This means I am now amongst the senior staff. I'm here 2.5 years.

04-04-2018, 08:56 PM	#6486
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	All people come with baggage, ergo all workers come with baggage. Any workplace should have a good-sized cargo area.

04-04-2018, 11:31 PM	#6488
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	How's the replacement doing?

04-05-2018, 08:03 AM	#6491
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The replacement had to come in and be good enough for about a month before the firing could happen. It took two months. It played out exactly as expected. It was transparent. I knew and even Rob knew. If Matthew comes in and is solid, Rob is in danger. He's now disposable. One more lateness and it's over. He did well for a long time. Then his girlfriend started inviting another guy to Rob's apartment, to fuck in his bed. He figured it out, and broke up with her. She then called the cops and alleged that there were drugs in his apartment. They came the next morning and searched his apartment, and didn't allow him to make a phone call to work to say he'd be late. I told him: it has actually worked out for you. You don't realize it right now, but you are minus two pathetic crazy bitches in your life. That will turn positive.

04-05-2018, 03:50 PM	#6493
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Wull That's mostly true, but in software places it's usually a little different -- if you do a ton of work after hours, they generally do not care if you are around all the time during bidness hours. Dude put in a solid year where he was super-motivated, and would check in from home and do little things that needed doing overnight. That's the team you want; where they organize around the work that needs to be done, not the HOURS that need to be worked. Boss vs Leader: a boss is concerned with process; a leader is concerned with people. If the people are properly motivated and team-oriented, the process takes care of itself. It's way easier if you take care of the people. Because if you take care of the people, the entire staff doesn't turn over every 2 years, and all that information and experience isn't lost every 2 years.

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