The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Nothingland
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Nothingland Something about nothing - game threads, diversions, time-wasters

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-09-2019, 09:49 AM   #6646
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
It's shocking to me that these companies (YouTube is Google, FFS) don't understand the Internet.

Once information is in one location, it is in all locations. That's the Internet.

Censoring legitimizes the information. We expect that the information is true and wildly important to know because the biggest sources reacted to it. It causes many people to instinctively consider that thing they don't know, and to pursue it. Streisand effect.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2019, 10:50 AM   #6647
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
Twitter is permitting it
Well sure, they've got Alexa on Twitter to protect them.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2019, 12:47 PM   #6648
BigV
Goon Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
First amendment overrides.
Overrides what?
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not.
BigV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2019, 12:54 PM   #6649
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
The ability to prosecute somebody for printing news
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 06:57 AM   #6650
Clodfobble
UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 20,012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
I understand their instinct, but censorship doesn't work.
It kind of does, in that I knew for days that the name was "out" but hadn't actually seen it until you posted it here. On the one hand, I'm not someone out looking for the information so I can whack him--that person will find it the minute it's available. On the other, there's a certain percentage of lazy internet harassers who wouldn't necessarily go to the trouble of death threats, etc. unless the information is readily available to them.

His name was going to come out eventually. I just really, really hope the guy is deeply hidden with good security detail.
Clodfobble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 11:29 AM   #6651
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
This does give people more ability to whack him.

But more importantly, it gives people a critical detail that will allow them to investigate and report parts of the story previously not available to the public.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 12:35 PM   #6652
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
I would expect his employer to be able to protect him ~ as long as he represents their interests, that is ~
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 04:22 PM   #6653
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
Once the whistleblower is positively ID'd, the President can revoke their security clearance. Without a security clearance, the whistleblower will lose their job. Their former employer will no longer be responsible for providing protection. The whistleblower will be dependent on local law enforcement for protection like anyone else. After a whistleblower has served people's immediate interests, that's what they could be headed for.

The questions would then be whether or not anyone would ever trust a whistleblower enough to fight for their reinstatement under a subsequent Administration and would anyone, any longer, even care.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 05:51 PM   #6654
Gravdigr
The Un-Tuckian
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Central...KY that is
Posts: 39,517
Snitches oughta get stitches.

That's all I know about it.
__________________


These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.
Gravdigr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 06:35 PM   #6655
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
In federal service there's a concept called Redress of Wrongs. In the military, it's codified as Redress Of Wrongs by the Commander. One must essentially give their boss, who they think did something wrong, a chance to take remedial action before complaining to anyone else.

If the result of the redress is unsatisfactory, then it's understood that the complainant is free to take it to anyone and everyone else. Saving your job is not generally accepted as a reason to bypass a redress. Physical harm would be.

Many have confronted Trump and lost; or, quit their jobs without being physically harmed. If the whistleblower went to the IG without having informed Trump of perceived wrongdoing, the whistleblower might never be trusted in government service again. We'll never know if the whistleblowers redress would have convinced Trump to reverse course. It seems that Presidents have reversed course on bigger decisions.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 06:55 PM   #6656
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
Yeah, because Trump is know for following all the traditions in government.
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 07:06 PM   #6657
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
He hasn't whacked anyone (as far as we know).
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2019, 07:11 PM   #6658
henry quirk
maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,162
orange man has been invoked: tw cometh (soon)...

.
__________________
like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'
henry quirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2019, 09:56 AM   #6659
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Back in the summer I made the mistake of ordering from the boingboing store 3 womens T-shirts for $9.54 each on sale with free shipping. They were being shipped from China and one arrived with paperwork saying $10. OK, for 46 cents no big deal but where are the other two shirts? Email to Luvyle and get unintelligible gobbledygook back but in a couple weeks the other two arrive along with this...

Name:  stockings.jpg
Views: 900
Size:  23.7 KB

I asked a couple women if they wanted them and the response was, "Stockings?" with shrieking laughter.

Two days ago I got an email saying order number xxxxxx, three shirts at $9.54 each has shipped but may take 20 days.
Emailed Lucyle saying I got these in September, I don't want any more.
Got back, have shipped have a nice day.
Emailed I won't pay for more shirts.
Got back, a transcription of the entire tracking record of the September shipment + have a nice day.
But it doesn't say they didn't ship them again.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2019, 10:39 AM   #6660
Gravdigr
The Un-Tuckian
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Central...KY that is
Posts: 39,517
We used to wear panty hose when hunting the early part of deer season. It works to keep the ticks off. No, really.

There was usually one of us that issued The Plea:

Quote:
If one of you bastards shoots me, peel these damn panty hose off me before you take me to the ER.
__________________


These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.
Gravdigr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
mild cheddar


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:18 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.