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Vietnam has had another outbreak. They had their first case the same week as us. We are kicking their ass 153,769 to 0. So much winning.
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We have to go back, Kate!
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Are you sick of winning yet?
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WELLINGTON, New Zealand — New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says that authorities have found four cases of the coronavirus in one Auckland household from an unknown source, the first cases of local transmission in the country in 102 days.
Ardern said Auckland, the nation’s largest city, will be moved to Alert Level 3 from midday Wednesday, meaning that people will be asked to stay at home and bars and many other businesses will be closed. She said the rest of the country will be raised to Alert Level 2. https://apnews.com/30fcdd7452850cf28dfe41af9ce76c61
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#664 |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
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The US is #1 in case fatality rate
![]() Three possible conclusions: 1) lower death rate shows the US health care system is comparatively good 2) higher case rate shows the US testing regime is comparatively good 3) combination Your move, haters |
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Let's see "hate." What can I hate here...
I hate your title, because it made me think we had the highest rates if we were number one. It would be better if the title said that the US was "best." "Hate" is way too strong though. This is good news, not that it's a competition. |
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It would be nice if other non-European countries besides the US and Canada were included.
How is Asia doing? How about famous New Zealand? |
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I think this line's mostly filler.
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2) Higher case rate only shows good testing, comparatively, if the infection rate is equal. When there is a political party actively campaigning against preventing infection, that isn't an assumption that can be relied upon.
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"The U.S. is #1 among these specific countries we chose to include in the chart."
As a non-hater myself, though, I actually think that 2 years from now, the cross-country death rate comparisons will be a washout: severely controlled countries like New Zealand are only delaying the inevitable, IMHO, and the only real factor affecting an area's death rate will be whether they kept the speed of the caseload under their medical system's limit, to avoid otherwise preventable deaths. But that's because I also don't think we'll ever get an effective vaccine, hopeful press releases notwithstanding. This thing won't be done until we get herd immunity the old-fashioned way, just like every human population for millenia has done when a pandemic rips through. |
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Read? I only know how to write.
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I love it when a plan comes together.
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OK, now we're getting somewhere. Mexico says the damage done by COVID-19 isn't due to government's lack of preparedness or action... it's Coca-Cola's fault!
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Sounds like Coke is serving people better than the government.
![]() Oh, and this won't happen if they come up with a vaccine... for this or anything.
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This is part of why we're never getting an effective vaccine for this thing.
Confirmed case of true reinfection, beyond any doubt because it was two different strains. Antibodies for the first infection clearly didn't work to combat the second infection, because his two bouts of illness were within a month of each other, when post-infection antibodies should be highest. (Which is to say, a hypothetical vaccine that worked for the first strain wouldn't have worked for the second, and if you can get as many new strains as they're seeing in just 9 months of spread in the U.S., you'll never stay ahead of it.) The first infection was mild, the second put him in the hospital. He was 25 years old, in good health, no autoimmune or pre-existing conditions. |
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Three of the vaccines in the pipeline require storage at 4 degrees below zero F, to 96 degrees below zero F.
The article didn't say how long they would be viable warmed up to inject.
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Seems to be a number of articles arguing the powers that be aren't puting enough emphasis on aerosols.
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