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Criticism should be, and will be, levied against any person who displays a confusion of ideas, while forcing a point where it doesn't belong. Having a strong feeling is important (in its own way), but you have to present yourself in an orderly, logical manner, in order to be taken seriously. If you meander all across the spectrum, it looks like you have no idea what you're talking about. That really doesn't help anybody.
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The white privilege being present is the use of Spanish. The Mexicans don't have the privilege, they must conform to the white clouds in the atmosphere. The white people do have the privilege, that is why no one ever knocks on white people for their somewhat inappropriate use of Spanish.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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Fresh, you and many others are attempting to redefine a common term. Racism defined does not include the word "white person".
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I don't think I'm trying to redefine the word racism. Heck the first recorded racism probably happened between Ancient Egypt and the Nubians.
I'm here to discuss and explain as best what I know based off my life experiences, no one can discredit me on that. Let me share one story before I leave for the rest of the day. I remember two years ago or so I was inside my Jewel Osco (grocery store) and looking at the magazines. Specifically the video game and computer gaming magazines. An elderly white lady past behind me and stopped to my left. She gazed around for a second then said abruptly "isn't it awful how they can put that crap on shelves? I can't believe they allow those people to do that." She was obviously referring to the hip hop and import car magazines slightly below the gaming magazines I was looking at (she thought I was looking at those mags). I wasn't expecting her to have said anything and her statement was a bit off, to me at least, so I was like "uh...eh" and didn't say anything as I didn't even really know how to react. She then looked at me with a disapproving frown and said "Oh, you don't speak English do you." Have you ever experienced such a high level of racism that you can't even comprehend it? I was so amazed that she said this. My eyes widened and I stuttered, "I, I, what? I speak English....." I was at a total loss of words because I could not believe what had just happened. My friends were like "dude I woulda slapped that bitch" after I told them. My white friends were like "that's fucked up" too. I am certainly not here to degrade white people, if anyone has assumed of me of that is mistaken. I am here to share what I know and my feelings on subjects and issues and I am sorry if they anger some of you. But at the end of the day I am going to be who I am. I am trying to bring some diversity to this board, because my experiences definitely do not match up with many of yours and vice versa. But isn't that a good thing? |
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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![]() Dude, don't you see it? You have fallen for the concept hook, line, and sinker. Take the issue, "racism", redefine it, not my problem.
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Oh, God. Not the "whether holdiays are made up or not" fiasco. Again.
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Fresh. I agree with some of what you are saying. Being white in the West is a distinct advantage most of the time. But...that doesn't mean that all white people are advantaged by being white.
To suggest that racism is alive and well in America is not exactly unorthodox. Nor, is it unorthodox to suggest that a person is more, or less likely to experience the world in a particular way depending on their ethnic origin and skin colour. But...and this is where my understanding of the world veers sharply from yours. Being white, is not in and of itself a protection from bigotry, disadvantage, poverty, exploitation or abuse. The world is not that simple. To suggest that a white skin means you have no understanding of what it is to be subject to those things is, if you'll forgive me, a little naive. To suggest that nobody with white skin knows what it is like to be subject to insulting and degrading stereotypes, is likewise naive. The points you raise about the hidden, unthought of advantages that being white in America brings are interesting and valid. But the world is more complicated than white -v- ethnic minority. |
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I've got 5 bucks sez that the Worlds Tallest Man comes down to the river and uses his body as a bridge for the dog to cross over to the island.
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The doggie is Chinese, but also part white (and light brown).
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you see what you want to see
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You constantly assume racism to be the motivating factor in your encounters with white people. Therefore you are classifying them by race, and assigning qualities to them based on race. That's racism!
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Flint you are the master of rationalization. If you honestly don't feel like she was acting racist then you have are trying everything you can to discredit me or you are the epitome of ignorance.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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So is this about White Privilege or racism?
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This "white people have privileges" issue leads to nothing.
If a guy in Tibet would never know of internet and western culture he would never think he has less privileges. Missionaries carried christendom into the jungle (they might even have thought it would help). Think about it and ask yourself if it makes sense to normalize all cultural values and traditions to bring all to a "white" niveau. Sure there's apartheid and racism on a grand scale on this planet. But I think the privileges you have should be seen in cultural context. In some parts of the world you're king of your village with two cows. Here you need a Villa and several German cars. regarding the initial topic: I really don't get your point: people in china do eat dogs. Yes I say this in general, I could also say : People in America do drive cars. Despite the fact that kids, most elderly and some other guys don't drive cars. But I can also say Italians don't eat dogs. There _are_ cultural differences. And some of them are funny. For me and for you. If you're a native chinese, then all this touching, hugging and hand shaking of those long nosed western people is strange to you. As a kid I learned the importance of being able to laugh about oneself. Life's much easier with this ability, Freshnesschronic. mike |
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