How to be happy - Page 5

SteveDallas · 08-07-2009, 01:42 PM

The Onion. Possibly NSFW language aka the F word.

Sundae · 08-07-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Oh quite. It has a nasty habit of rendering you incapable of doing the things that might help.

AND doing the thing that hurts those around you/ your relationships most/ exacerbates the problem (in my case, drinking).

I was off my meds for a week because I "couldn't be arsed" to go to the doctors and get a new script. What was that? Depression. How did I deal with that? Drinking. I could smack myself up the head as much as anyone watching could want, but in the end I have to accept the illness, and try to put things in place to make sure such damned stupid behavior isn't repeated. For a msart girl I'm a fuckit far too often.

Funnily enough, my cookie cutter list would say, "Get a pet!" And I'm sure the RSPCA would say depressed people/ alcoholics are the worst pet owners, EVAH! So I accept, what works for one does not work for all. FTR - my boy(s) and briefly girl never went without food, and although the boys lived with me in filth for a short time, they had clean litter and lots of love.

Sigh - I miss Dylan and Hely every day.

dar512 · 08-07-2009, 02:08 PM

Irony: Well-intended essay on how to be happy results in 62 posts of argument and acrimony.

Sundae · 08-07-2009, 02:10 PM

The Cellar: poorly written article attracts far more intelligent and realistic reaction than the original piece expressed.

SteveDallas · 08-07-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512

. . . 62 posts of argument and acrimony.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not done yet.

Shawnee123 · 08-07-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Irony: Well-intended essay on how to be happy results in 62 posts of argument and acrimony.

The road to hell, my friend, the road to hell...

:p

Trilby · 08-07-2009, 03:25 PM

now you've all made me unhappy.

I'm off for a - what? What is an acceptable remedy these days? oh, no! Now I have to take a walk! Hells bells!!

Shawnee123 · 08-07-2009, 04:29 PM

Now watch this, this is how the Cellar works: if you admit to being happy, many someones will come along and try to throw a spanner in the works. The beauty of it is, if you're REALLY happy, they fail. And I am truly happy.

Trilby · 08-07-2009, 05:43 PM

How To Be Happy:

2 Cups Sugar
1 Cup Cream
1/2 Cup butter, pure, smooth, a hint of salt, only
A pinch of cinnamon,
A drop of vanilla

Mix in blue skies, stars, a full moon,
sticky lemon candies
your best dream -
and throw in a tornado or two. What the hell.

Aliantha · 08-07-2009, 06:35 PM

You know, people would look at me and say I have everything I could possibly need to make me happy, but I can guarantee you that right now at this particular time in my life, I am not.

Yeah I guess I should just not feel sorry for myself and I should get up and grow a backbone or something right?

Just because someone appears to have an enviable life/style, doesn't mean it's perfect or even cookie cutter. Everyone has their demons and sometimes they get the upper hand, no matter who you are and how much money you have or how supportive your spouse is etc. Is it wrong for someone seemingly enviable to admit something like that and to have found what she thinks are a few tricks to drag herself out of a funk? A few tricks she decided to write down and share for others who might be in the same situation. I don't think so.

A final note, an enviable life is a matter of perspective. I'm pretty sure some starving people in some drought ridden African country might consider living on the streets of America enviable, even if they didn't have a house.

Shawnee123 · 08-07-2009, 06:50 PM

I don't envy her life. It is not the life for me, and never was.

If I had felt the honesty that I just read in your post, Ali, my opinion would have been so different.

My problem was with the article itself: LOOK! I have everything. Betcha envy me? You should. However, I'm afraid I'm getting older, so here's how I cured it!

It was just so very trite, and a bit demeaning to real women who are making it every day, no matter their circumstances. If I had detected any note of honesty, or barring that, some actual journalism, I wouldn't have taken her to task for missing, but pretending to hit, both sides of that coin.

Aliantha · 08-07-2009, 06:53 PM

Yeah well I think maybe she just needs a bit of help with her writing style. I know what you mean about her attempt to get people on side and it falls on it's face for me too, but I think the article has a few good points, and some not so good. Like everything in life, you've gotta take the good with the bad. Nothing is all one and none of the other. That's the thing I'm trying to focus on now to make myself happy.

Shawnee123 · 08-07-2009, 06:56 PM

Me too. I know we all have our share of the good and the bad. Sometimes it takes a LOT of focus.

But I'm glad to have the ability to focus...most of the time.

Clodfobble · 08-07-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

I don't have depression, according to the DSM or any therapist I've ever seen.

Um, I'm no DSM-IV, and I'm certainly no therapist... but I think I'd have to disagree with them, Pie. On what basis does a therapist call suicidal thoughts not depression?

Pie · 08-07-2009, 08:18 PM

Suicidal ideation is insufficient for a clinical diagnosis. 5 of 9 symptoms must be present.

But really, who will I convince here? Carry on. Feel better about yourselves for having real problems.

08-07-2009, 02:08 PM	#63
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Irony: Well-intended essay on how to be happy results in 62 posts of argument and acrimony. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

08-07-2009, 02:10 PM	#64
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	The Cellar: poorly written article attracts far more intelligent and realistic reaction than the original piece expressed. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

08-07-2009, 03:25 PM	#67
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	now you've all made me unhappy. I'm off for a - what? What is an acceptable remedy these days? oh, no! Now I have to take a walk! Hells bells!! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

08-07-2009, 04:29 PM	#68
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Now watch this, this is how the Cellar works: if you admit to being happy, many someones will come along and try to throw a spanner in the works. The beauty of it is, if you're REALLY happy, they fail. And I am truly happy. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-07-2009, 05:43 PM	#69
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	How To Be Happy: 2 Cups Sugar 1 Cup Cream 1/2 Cup butter, pure, smooth, a hint of salt, only A pinch of cinnamon, A drop of vanilla Mix in blue skies, stars, a full moon, sticky lemon candies your best dream - and throw in a tornado or two. What the hell. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

08-07-2009, 01:42 PM	#61
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	The Onion. Possibly NSFW language aka the F word.

08-07-2009, 06:35 PM	#70
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	You know, people would look at me and say I have everything I could possibly need to make me happy, but I can guarantee you that right now at this particular time in my life, I am not. Yeah I guess I should just not feel sorry for myself and I should get up and grow a backbone or something right? Just because someone appears to have an enviable life/style, doesn't mean it's perfect or even cookie cutter. Everyone has their demons and sometimes they get the upper hand, no matter who you are and how much money you have or how supportive your spouse is etc. Is it wrong for someone seemingly enviable to admit something like that and to have found what she thinks are a few tricks to drag herself out of a funk? A few tricks she decided to write down and share for others who might be in the same situation. I don't think so. A final note, an enviable life is a matter of perspective. I'm pretty sure some starving people in some drought ridden African country might consider living on the streets of America enviable, even if they didn't have a house. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-07-2009, 06:50 PM	#71
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I don't envy her life. It is not the life for me, and never was. If I had felt the honesty that I just read in your post, Ali, my opinion would have been so different. My problem was with the article itself: LOOK! I have everything. Betcha envy me? You should. However, I'm afraid I'm getting older, so here's how I cured it! It was just so very trite, and a bit demeaning to real women who are making it every day, no matter their circumstances. If I had detected any note of honesty, or barring that, some actual journalism, I wouldn't have taken her to task for missing, but pretending to hit, both sides of that coin. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-07-2009, 06:53 PM	#72
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Yeah well I think maybe she just needs a bit of help with her writing style. I know what you mean about her attempt to get people on side and it falls on it's face for me too, but I think the article has a few good points, and some not so good. Like everything in life, you've gotta take the good with the bad. Nothing is all one and none of the other. That's the thing I'm trying to focus on now to make myself happy. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-07-2009, 06:56 PM	#73
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Me too. I know we all have our share of the good and the bad. Sometimes it takes a LOT of focus. But I'm glad to have the ability to focus...most of the time. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-07-2009, 08:18 PM	#75
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Suicidal ideation is insufficient for a clinical diagnosis. 5 of 9 symptoms must be present. But really, who will I convince here? Carry on. Feel better about yourselves for having real problems. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

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