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Flint · 04-11-2006, 11:31 AM

Yes, I'm saying that is my perception, more or less. Not so much of a direct comparison, though.

lumberjim · 04-11-2006, 11:56 AM

WELL. it is my perception that you enjoy talking shit. i also percieve that when cornered, you'd rather stick to your guns and talk more shit than to cop to the truth. your device of utilizing long run on sentences with big words and circuituous word paths as a substitution for clearly intended logic is currently being percieved as bullpoopie.

Flint · 04-11-2006, 12:02 PM

The funny thing is, I actually talk that way. To me, it is "clearly intended logic" because I attempt to chart out all the details in as sequential a fashion as possible. I acknowledge that this format may not be pleasant reading. However, I challenge you to state which "truth" you believe I am unwilling to address.

lumberjim · 04-11-2006, 12:07 PM

that you stated at one point that you prefer not to generalize ( as it helped your case at that time)

and then shortly after, you generalized (which i understood to be intended as humor)

beestie called you on it.

the issue now is that instead of copping to contradicting yourself, you attempted to argue a plainly false point of view.

Flint · 04-11-2006, 12:22 PM

Oh, that. That's easy. The difference is between observations stated as objective facts and observations stated as admittedly subjective perceptions. The phrase "idea of" is a qualifier which indicates the subjective category. Subjective observations are fine, as long as you don't state them as fact. Hence my use of the "idea of" qualifier.

The statistical analysis was actually an afterthought which we got sidetracked on. But also equally valid.

Flint · 04-11-2006, 12:25 PM

Incidentally, I do acknowledge the humorous appearance of a contradiction (in Beetsie's post).

Beestie · 04-11-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

...your device of utilizing long run on sentences with big words and circuituous word paths as a substitution for clearly intended logic is currently being percieved as bullpoopie.

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Originally Posted by Flint

Oh, that. That's easy. The difference is between observations stated as objective facts and observations stated as admittedly subjective perceptions. The phrase "idea of" is a qualifier which indicates the subjective category. Subjective observations are fine, as long as you don't state them as fact. Hence my use of the "idea of" qualifier.

The statistical analysis was actually an afterthought which we got sidetracked on. But also equally valid.

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Flint · 04-11-2006, 12:34 PM

Criticizing the substance of a post - with a post of even less substance? Priceless.

wolf · 04-12-2006, 01:27 AM

We have mad skillz.

Torrere · 04-12-2006, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

Criticizing the substance of a post - with a post of even less substance? Priceless.

Fewer words, but much more substance.

Flint · 04-12-2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Torrere

Fewer words, but much more substance.

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Originally Posted by Beestie

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04-11-2006, 11:31 AM	#61
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Yes, I'm saying that is my perception, more or less. Not so much of a direct comparison, though. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-11-2006, 11:56 AM	#62
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	WELL. it is my perception that you enjoy talking shit. i also percieve that when cornered, you'd rather stick to your guns and talk more shit than to cop to the truth. your device of utilizing long run on sentences with big words and circuituous word paths as a substitution for clearly intended logic is currently being percieved as bullpoopie. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

04-11-2006, 12:02 PM	#63
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	The funny thing is, I actually talk that way. To me, it is "clearly intended logic" because I attempt to chart out all the details in as sequential a fashion as possible. I acknowledge that this format may not be pleasant reading. However, I challenge you to state which "truth" you believe I am unwilling to address. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-11-2006, 12:07 PM	#64
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	that you stated at one point that you prefer not to generalize ( as it helped your case at that time) and then shortly after, you generalized (which i understood to be intended as humor) beestie called you on it. the issue now is that instead of copping to contradicting yourself, you attempted to argue a plainly false point of view. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

04-11-2006, 12:22 PM	#65
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Oh, that. That's easy. The difference is between observations stated as objective facts and observations stated as admittedly subjective perceptions. The phrase "idea of" is a qualifier which indicates the subjective category. Subjective observations are fine, as long as you don't state them as fact. Hence my use of the "idea of" qualifier. The statistical analysis was actually an afterthought which we got sidetracked on. But also equally valid. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-11-2006, 12:25 PM	#66
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Incidentally, I do acknowledge the humorous appearance of a contradiction (in Beetsie's post). __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-11-2006, 12:34 PM	#68
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Criticizing the substance of a post - with a post of even less substance? Priceless. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-12-2006, 01:27 AM	#69
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	We have mad skillz. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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