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monster · 03-12-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

I stopped saying it sometime in junior high. You are free to refuse to say it, just as you are free to refuse public schooling altogether...

Someone should tell the teachers. Beest's boss's daughter got in trouble for refusing to say it. When she pointed out she wasn't American but Welsh, they asked her to recite the Welsh pledge of allegience instead.

SteveDallas · 03-12-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

We not only said it all the way up through junior high, but in 8th grade I was the Seargeant-at-Arms on the student council, whose only actual job was to recite the pledge over the PA system every single morning for the students to follow along with.

Was there a uniform? Nightstick? Scary thought.

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Originally Posted by monster

Someone should tell the teachers. Beest's boss's daughter got in trouble for refusing to say it. When she pointed out she wasn't American but Welsh, they asked her to recite the Welsh pledge of allegience instead.

So, did she clear her throat for a few seconds?

jinx · 03-12-2008, 08:23 PM

There are some school nurses who think they can keep kids out of school if they aren't vaccinated, and like the pledge-happy teachers, they just need to be 'schooled'.
It's an imperfect world, screws fall out all the time...

glatt · 03-13-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx

I stopped saying it sometime in junior high.

I think it was high school that I stopped. But it seemed to be an unspoken thing with all the students. Everybody said it or at least mouthed the words in junior high, but we all just stood there with our mouths shut in high school. They did make us stand up during it. I remember one guy who refused to stand up one morning and got into a power struggle with the teacher over it. He got detention and stood up the next day.

Happy Monkey · 03-13-2008, 12:22 PM

We did the pledge and a random patriotic song through sixth grade. Past that, sometimes in assemblies.

Griff · 03-13-2008, 05:10 PM

I shut it down in about 10th grade. They didn't ever make anyone stand as far as I know. That was interesting because it was a very conservative public school which was big on rolling out protestant ministers for school assemblies. Maybe they didn't want us worshipping anything but Jesus? More likely I had teachers who just didn't care about it.

Aliantha · 03-13-2008, 05:41 PM

I have a question about the pledge of allegience.

It seems a lot of you stopped saying it for whatever reasons. I just wonder why? Do you not think it's a good thing?

Griff · 03-13-2008, 05:47 PM

At the time I would have pledged to the Constitution but pledging to flags is (was)base nationalism and good preparation for ending up in a body bag for no good reason.

Clodfobble · 03-13-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I have a question about the pledge of allegience.

It seems a lot of you stopped saying it for whatever reasons. I just wonder why? Do you not think it's a good thing?

Well, recently at least, there's been a recurring furor over the words "one nation, under God." But I think you would find that most students were/are eager to stop saying it out of apathy, plus the inherent uncoolness of standing and reciting anything.

monster · 03-13-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas

So, did she clear her throat for a few seconds?

I believe she may have grunted for a few Baas

toranokaze · 03-25-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am pretty sure most of them have stopped. Ours has. Now they have become so PC so we don't hurt anyone's feelings. And there is zero room for common sense in the decision making.

In Texas the schools still say the pledge.

monster · 03-28-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze

In Texas the schools still say the pledge.

Yeah, but you know what they say about Texas, don't you.... Queers and steers....

jinx · 03-28-2008, 07:39 PM

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-22-2008, 05:06 PM

Hmph. Griff, you seem rather to have forgotten what clause follows the word "flag" in the pledge. I put it to you that you would not endure living in anything but a Republic, and like as not, this one. And having lived, all in all, I think you'd also die in this one too.

I've never stopped pledging, not really -- the occasional public meeting or NRA council. I suppose part of whether you'd keep it up would depend on just how special you think this Republic is. I've been out among a few other Republics -- and hey, a lot of them are nice places to visit. None of them had our dynamism. None of them was the premier modern republic.

I've sworn oaths to support and defend the Constitution in the course of that too, which oaths still carry weight with me. And I'd really have to research our nation's enemies carefully to find one that was specifically an enemy of our nation, but not an enemy of our Constitution. That'd be quite the nut to crack.

TheMercenary · 04-24-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

There are some school nurses who think they can keep kids out of school if they aren't vaccinated, and like the pledge-happy teachers, they just need to be 'schooled'.
It's an imperfect world, screws fall out all the time...

It is state dependent but actually they can keep them out of school if they are not vaccinated.

03-12-2008, 08:23 PM	#63
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	There are some school nurses who think they can keep kids out of school if they aren't vaccinated, and like the pledge-happy teachers, they just need to be 'schooled'. It's an imperfect world, screws fall out all the time... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

03-13-2008, 12:22 PM	#65
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	We did the pledge and a random patriotic song through sixth grade. Past that, sometimes in assemblies. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-13-2008, 05:10 PM	#66
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I shut it down in about 10th grade. They didn't ever make anyone stand as far as I know. That was interesting because it was a very conservative public school which was big on rolling out protestant ministers for school assemblies. Maybe they didn't want us worshipping anything but Jesus? More likely I had teachers who just didn't care about it. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-13-2008, 05:41 PM	#67
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I have a question about the pledge of allegience. It seems a lot of you stopped saying it for whatever reasons. I just wonder why? Do you not think it's a good thing? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-13-2008, 05:47 PM	#68
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	At the time I would have pledged to the Constitution but pledging to flags is (was)base nationalism and good preparation for ending up in a body bag for no good reason. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-28-2008, 07:39 PM	#73
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	__________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

04-22-2008, 05:06 PM	#74
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Hmph. Griff, you seem rather to have forgotten what clause follows the word "flag" in the pledge. I put it to you that you would not endure living in anything but a Republic, and like as not, this one. And having lived, all in all, I think you'd also die in this one too. I've never stopped pledging, not really -- the occasional public meeting or NRA council. I suppose part of whether you'd keep it up would depend on just how special you think this Republic is. I've been out among a few other Republics -- and hey, a lot of them are nice places to visit. None of them had our dynamism. None of them was the premier modern republic. I've sworn oaths to support and defend the Constitution in the course of that too, which oaths still carry weight with me. And I'd really have to research our nation's enemies carefully to find one that was specifically an enemy of our nation, but not an enemy of our Constitution. That'd be quite the nut to crack. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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