What do you hate most about politics and politicians?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

They contribute lots, in sales (etc, etc...) tax and cheap labor.

Everyone pays that shit.

The rest of it is liberal Bullshit you can't measure.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Where is the link?

Compiled from ....
Here

here
and a couple others..

Just fish - its pretty easy to find. I had some official site too <shrug>

[Happy Monkey]

If everybody pays, then nobody contributes nothing.

[classicman]

I was also interested in determining how much those % changed since before the crisis.
But I got distracted and started playing bejeweled.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

Compiled from ....
Here

here
and a couple others..

Just fish - its pretty easy to find. I had some official site too <shrug>

From your link:

" The top 5 percent pay well over half the income taxes. "

Ouch!!!!! my point exactly.....

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

If 60 or more % contribute nothing is that a problem?

If they earn nothing then they should contribute that same amount.

[classicman]

This is interesting. Look back at the 80's...










All from that NYT link

[TheMercenary]

As long as we have "Zero Liability Voters" they will have no investment in our future and no care who or how we appropriate tax liability. The sooner everyone shares the pain and responsibility, the sooner these problems will be fixed. As long as we have a majority that take from the government coffers and expect to receive benefits with minimal contributions, the problems will continue.

[TheMercenary]

You really trust the NYT as a valid source of unbiased statistical reference?????

[classicman]

You asked where they came from.
Believe them or not. Tear 'em apart, I don't care.

As long as outlays exceed income we will have a problem.

[classicman]

oh here was one more

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

You asked where they came from.
Believe them or not. Tear 'em apart, I don't care.

As long as outlays exceed income we will have a problem.

You mean as long as the Dems continue to support spending like whores as they have over the last 4 years we have a problem and expect us to pay for it. Yea, we have a problem.

You could tax every single millionaire in the US all of their money and it would not pay for the whorish spending we have seen over the last 2 years by this Congress. If it shuts Down the Dems will eat this one.....

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

Compiled from ....
Here

here
and a couple others..

Just fish - its pretty easy to find. I had some official site too <shrug>

Again, quoting the NYT as a source of original research will always put you on the defensive. It cannot be verified or replicated therefore it lacks validity....

"The New York Times reported that America’s millionaires raked in 43 percent of the investment tax cut benefits in 2003. It’s true that lower tax rates have been a huge boon to shareholders—but most of them are not rich. "

I desire nothing more than to see this country come to a complete and utter standstill for 6 months........ It would do us good.

[classicman]

Merc, after asking you the questions - you whined. I answered them for you - you whined.
Now you're whining about the sources of info.

Well, my friend - find some of your own and post them. Otherwise STFU.
Bitching does nothing to forward the discussion.

[TheMercenary]

Bro you really can't hold up the NYT with their history of biased reporting and hold that out as a legitimate source. Sorry. That is just a huge fail for me. If all you have is the NYT then get on your knees and STFU yourself....... Open wide. The liberal press is ready to squirt all of their thoughts and ideas right where it counts. It is not about "Whining", it is about questioning original source documents and how data is collected, or in the case of the NYT, more often, how data is not really collected, but how data is constructed from limited data points, and then grandiose conclusions are reported. What a load of Bullshit.

Take the hook out of your cheek...