I don't know noth'in bout birthen no hurricane - Page 5

tw · 09-16-2004, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Time to just laugh at them -- because there's not a thing anyone can do.

Which makes the current issue of Scientific American so interesting. Suggested is that hurricans can be redirected or even diminished. Though probably not in our lifetime.

Cyber Wolf · 09-17-2004, 07:00 AM

There's been talk of what could happen if you seed hurricane clouds. I'm not so sure that would really work. If the hurricane is over warm water, it's sucking up more than enough fuel to replenish whatever the seeding takes out. It'd be best to wait until it got at least halfway over land and by then it'll stall out on its own, not to mention the fact seeding it at that point would only bring MORE rain to the people under it.

Hmm...changing a hurricane's path. Somehow they'd have to overcome the force of the earth's rotation, because that's what makes a hurricane what it is instead of just a large unorganized cluster of storms. Besides, there's just something not right about being able to redirect a hurricane. What if we had deflected Ivan and sent it on a straight westerly path? Mexico would have been thoroughly nailed and they're frankly not as able to cope with massive hurricanes as we are here, especially in the rural areas. The death tolls would be astronomical compared to here. It'd be on the heads of whomever gave the order to change Ivan's path.

glatt · 09-17-2004, 01:45 PM

Check out this slideshow of hurricane damage from NYT
slide show

russotto · 09-17-2004, 02:04 PM

If you were to change a hurricane's path you'd probably do it when you could send them out to sea -- send them north/nne through the Atlantic until they convert to non-tropical or break up.

glatt · 09-17-2004, 02:16 PM

Here are some pictures from WashingtonPost
Slideshow

Edit:
Here are a bunch more from a local Florida paper. Click on each picture to start a slideshow. There are like 50-100 pictures here.
More Ivan destruction
Or paste this link into your browser:
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/...alleries.shtml

wolf · 09-18-2004, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

That's kind of scary. How did you know our office has a corrugated tin roof? (actually, it is standing seam metal, but close enough for most psychic purposes, I'd say).

I'm a professional. Don't try this at home.

tw · 09-26-2004, 10:34 AM

How destructive can a hurricane be? Wave height appears to be a good indicator. For example the recent hurricane through Pennsacola (Frances) produced 52 foot waves at the data buoy located 64 nm off Alabama (this data buoy broke free from its moorings and is currently drifting). A data buoy located 120 east of Cape Canaveral reported only 30 foot waves. Last year's hurricane that struck N Carolina (that chopped through the Outer Banks) had 42 foot waves at Frying Pan Shoals.

Also interesting is how long a hurricane exists. This from a data buoy located off Cape Canaveral demonstrates how sudden the change can be during and after a hurricane:

tw · 10-01-2004, 11:01 PM

Just as it appearred the hurricane season was over, look what just popped off the African coast-

Cyber Wolf · 10-01-2004, 11:30 PM

Well finally...I was thinking something had gone wrong!

wolf · 10-01-2004, 11:36 PM

I think they got at least one more after this one to worry about. No reason. Just a feeling.

Kitsune · 10-08-2004, 01:28 PM

Four in one year might be bad, but check out poor Japan who might be set up to endure their ninth typhoon this year, named Ma-On. Impressive wind speeds, too!

xoxoxoBruce · 10-08-2004, 06:21 PM

160 with 195 gusts? Hmm, clay tile roof, rice paper walls, time to skedaddle.

Nightsong · 10-09-2004, 01:41 AM

Thankfully with as busy as this years season has been, we on the SOuth Carolina coast have faired well. However we have had a fair bit of wind damage. I am posting a shot of one of te odder ones. Wind and water together can get into odd spots.

Here is a prime example.

Kitsune · 10-09-2004, 09:21 AM

Wind and water together can get into odd spots.

Must have been a hell of a storm to not only get water inside a lightbulb, but also wash in a turtle, too! Damn!

tw · 10-09-2004, 11:44 AM

Mathews would be the 13th east coast hurricane. I believe there were 11 in the eastern Pacific. But in the western Pacific, this storm currently hitting Japan is the 24th typhoon this season - according to Radio Japan last night.

09-17-2004, 07:00 AM	#62
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	There's been talk of what could happen if you seed hurricane clouds. I'm not so sure that would really work. If the hurricane is over warm water, it's sucking up more than enough fuel to replenish whatever the seeding takes out. It'd be best to wait until it got at least halfway over land and by then it'll stall out on its own, not to mention the fact seeding it at that point would only bring MORE rain to the people under it. Hmm...changing a hurricane's path. Somehow they'd have to overcome the force of the earth's rotation, because that's what makes a hurricane what it is instead of just a large unorganized cluster of storms. Besides, there's just something not right about being able to redirect a hurricane. What if we had deflected Ivan and sent it on a straight westerly path? Mexico would have been thoroughly nailed and they're frankly not as able to cope with massive hurricanes as we are here, especially in the rural areas. The death tolls would be astronomical compared to here. It'd be on the heads of whomever gave the order to change Ivan's path. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

09-17-2004, 02:16 PM	#65
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Here are some pictures from WashingtonPost Slideshow Edit: Here are a bunch more from a local Florida paper. Click on each picture to start a slideshow. There are like 50-100 pictures here. More Ivan destruction Or paste this link into your browser: http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/...alleries.shtml Last edited by glatt; 09-17-2004 at 02:29 PM.

09-26-2004, 10:34 AM	#67
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	How destructive can a hurricane be? Wave height appears to be a good indicator. For example the recent hurricane through Pennsacola (Frances) produced 52 foot waves at the data buoy located 64 nm off Alabama (this data buoy broke free from its moorings and is currently drifting). A data buoy located 120 east of Cape Canaveral reported only 30 foot waves. Last year's hurricane that struck N Carolina (that chopped through the Outer Banks) had 42 foot waves at Frying Pan Shoals. Also interesting is how long a hurricane exists. This from a data buoy located off Cape Canaveral demonstrates how sudden the change can be during and after a hurricane: Attached Images

10-01-2004, 11:01 PM	#68
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Just as it appearred the hurricane season was over, look what just popped off the African coast- Attached Images

10-01-2004, 11:30 PM	#69
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	Well finally...I was thinking something had gone wrong! __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

09-17-2004, 01:45 PM	#63
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Check out this slideshow of hurricane damage from NYT slide show

09-17-2004, 02:04 PM	#64
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	If you were to change a hurricane's path you'd probably do it when you could send them out to sea -- send them north/nne through the Atlantic until they convert to non-tropical or break up.

10-01-2004, 11:36 PM	#70
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think they got at least one more after this one to worry about. No reason. Just a feeling. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-08-2004, 01:28 PM	#71
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Four in one year might be bad, but check out poor Japan who might be set up to endure their ninth typhoon this year, named Ma-On. Impressive wind speeds, too!

10-08-2004, 06:21 PM	#72
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	160 with 195 gusts? Hmm, clay tile roof, rice paper walls, time to skedaddle. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-09-2004, 01:41 AM	#73
Nightsong Wang Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 177	odd wind effects Thankfully with as busy as this years season has been, we on the SOuth Carolina coast have faired well. However we have had a fair bit of wind damage. I am posting a shot of one of te odder ones. Wind and water together can get into odd spots. Here is a prime example. Attached Images

10-09-2004, 09:21 AM	#74
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Wind and water together can get into odd spots. Must have been a hell of a storm to not only get water inside a lightbulb, but also wash in a turtle, too! Damn!

10-09-2004, 11:44 AM	#75
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Mathews would be the 13th east coast hurricane. I believe there were 11 in the eastern Pacific. But in the western Pacific, this storm currently hitting Japan is the 24th typhoon this season - according to Radio Japan last night. Attached Images

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