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Old 07-14-2005, 06:28 PM   #61
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All such documents in the Senate Intel report appear well after Wilson's trip.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:52 PM   #62
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I find Joe Scarboroughs take on the Rove affair interesting.

What amazed me was the attempt at spin by Rep Peter King (R,NY) on Tuesday.

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SCARBOROUGH: Now to the storm over the president's top adviser, Karl Rove. Did he leak classified information to a reporter, and should he be bounced from the White House?

With me now to talk about that is Congressman Peter King.

Thank you so much for being with us, Congressman.

It's a fascinating case. And I just got to start by saying, you and I served together during the Clinton administration. We attacked the Clinton administration for not taking national security more seriously. I got to just tell you, I mean, bottom line is, if Clinton's chief of staff or top adviser had leaked the identity of a CIA agent, you and I would be up in arms and say, Clinton had to fire that person immediately.

Should Karl Rove be treated at the same standard?

REP. PETER KING ®, NEW YORK: No, in fact, I think Karl Rove should get a medal, Joe. I really mean that.

I think this is much do about nothing, because let's look at the facts very clearly.

SCARBOROUGH: For revealing a CIA agent's identity?

KING: First of all, it's only a crime if she was undercover, if he knew she was undercover, and he did it deliberately.

I think, Joe, this thing was such a hoax. Joe Wilson was a shameless self-promoter. Everything about his story was either a lie or a hoax or he was incompetent. And when Karl Rove—even just looking at the e-mail. If you are talking to a reporter and you have someone like Joe Wilson, who was totally discrediting the president of the United States, unfairly and untruthfully, and you say, how come this guy was sent over to do this?

And to say, you know, looking at the fact that he is—was sent over

by his wife, who was in the CIA.
A medal? For outing a CIA agent whose only offense, according to King, was in not speaking to the press, when she probably couldn't?

So much for Republican=patriot. I still can't believe the spin he tried to put on this.
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:46 AM   #63
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...14/wbr.01.html

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WILSON: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.
That doesn't mean it's over, although Wilson could have mentioned this earlier.

Scarborough's stopped clock was right yesterday. The twisting and turning to get out of this has included downright anti-American anti-patriotic weaseling, and it's sick.

And it's why I'm a swing voter. Once you choose sides, the truth, and/or doing the right thing, becomes less important than having your side win the game.
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Old 07-15-2005, 10:21 AM   #64
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He meant as of the day her cover was blown.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:00 AM   #65
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And I advertise myself as a professional psychic ...
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:15 AM   #66
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It could be.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:22 AM   #67
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Come on.

They were trying to use the photo shoot to cast doubt on whether she was really clandestine. His response was that the photo shoot was after her cover was already blown, and he mentioned the explicit incident that blew her cover.
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:40 PM   #68
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8577190/

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In an interview Friday, Wilson said his comment was meant to reflect that his wife lost her ability to be a covert agent because of the leak, not that she had stopped working for the CIA beforehand.

His wife’s “ability to do the job she’s been doing for close to 20 years ceased from the minute Novak’s article appeared; she ceased being a clandestine officer,” he said.
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Old 07-16-2005, 01:04 AM   #69
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:00 AM   #70
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Either way Rove is a scumbag.
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Old 07-16-2005, 08:52 AM   #71
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Either way Rove is a scumbag.
Is this supposed to be news? Even a Nixon 'dirty tricks' campaigner like Donald Segretti seems like a guy running a hot dog stand compared to Rove, who has refined and almost institutionalized the process. Sort of a Mayor McSleaze.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:01 AM   #72
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It would be news to Bush since I heard him saying what a moral, upright, honorable man Rove is, just the other day.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:05 AM   #73
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It would be news to Bush since I heard him saying what a moral, upright, honorable man Rove is, just the other day.
Maybe Bush really is that clueless.

Bush: Karl, where have you been? My god, is that blood on your hands?

Rove: I was just out for a walk Mr. President. The blood? Oh, I thought I would help out the cook and kill some, uh, chickens for dinner. Yeah, that's right - chickens.


Actually, I always thought he resembled the Gestapo agent in "Raiders of the Lost Ark".

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Old 07-16-2005, 09:31 AM   #74
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Is this supposed to be news? Even a Nixon 'dirty tricks' campaigner like Donald Segretti seems like a guy running a hot dog stand compared to Rove, who has refined and almost institutionalized the process.
And Bush's dad fired rove for leaking information to Novak. Everyone knows Rove is dirty, Bush just doesn't care as long as it works.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:07 PM   #75
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Guy on NPR was chatting this case up this morning. He made an offhand comment that Plame donated 2k to the Al Gore campaign using her cover company as her place of work. That sounds like a violation of campaign funding laws to me. I know laws don't apply to folks inside the Beltway but I like to know when Fed Gov types contribute to those who steal the money that goes into their paychecks.
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