Judge rules on Arizona immigration law

[classicman]

I'm not sure what to make of this. The article does raise some good points and questions.

Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright

Oh and it discusses the applicability of the 14th amendment as well.

[classicman]

The help promised by the feds has finally arrived... sorta
CNSNews

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said requests by Arizona law enforcement personnel and Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) for 3,000 National Guard troops along the state’s border with Mexico have been answered so far with 1 percent of that number deployed there this week.

“We have a whopping 30 [National Guard troops] this week that are showing up,” Babeu told CNSNews.com. “It’s less than a half-hearted measure designed to fail.”

But the federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has placed 15 signs along a 60-mile stretch of Interstate 8 that links San Diego with Phoenix and Tucson warning travelers of drug cartels and human trafficking operations.

The Obama administration has said it will deploy National Guard troops to the southern border incrementally to eventually have 1,500 troops in place. In addition, $600 million in “emergency border protection funding” was approved in legislation the president signed into law in August.

Babeu said the warning signs are 70 to 80 miles from the border and just 30 miles from Phoenix, the fifth largest city in the United States.

Originally Posted by classicman

The help promised by the feds has finally arrived... sorta
CNSNews

Maybe you should ask WHY more funding hasnt arrived?

Could it be because McCain and Kyle (and the Senate Republicans) would not sign-on to the appropriation bill for additional funding (whining that it wasnt enough, despite the fact that the fy 10 funding request plus the supplemental was a significant increase over the previous years) and demanded more to fight the "crisis on the Arizona border that was out of control."

Or that the funding bill that did finally pass in Aug was a bill some here ridiculed because it was after the Senate adjourned and was "passed by unanimous consent" with only two Democrats in the chamber at the time.

Curious people ask WHY.....instead of stopping when they find an article that they think supports a pre-conceived position. Something you do all the time.

My advice. Change your signature, dude. Sagan doesnt really fit you.

This is more appropriate for you:

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
- Abe Lincoln

When all one does (again and again and again with links that never tell the full story) is open one's mouth to find fault and never attempts to understand WHY, one could reasonably be called a fool.

[classicman]

Ya know. I removed everyone from my ignore list a week or so ago. I thought things had cooled to the point of civility. I was wrong.
Apparently we cannot coexist here. You obviously cannot help yourself.

I've tried. I completely ignored you and your lapdog shaw and a couple others for the good of the whole. You, and she, however find yourselves unable to do so.

I asked you nicely and not so nicely not to communicate with me - again for the good of the cellar. Not for me or you. I couldn't give a shit about you and you likewise about me.

Why is it that you have to start shit and try to tell me how to live my life what my sig should or shouldn't be and make completely unnecessary personal attacks at me - Especially after this.

Why couldn't you? Are you inherently incapable of leaving me alone? Seriously - Why is that you cannot just stay out of my life.
Why is it that you cannot help yourself? Do you have no self control? Are you so brainwashed in your beliefs that you feel compelled to try and control other people and their opinions thoughts and actions? Why would you prefer to start slinging shit on the board - again?

And for the rest of you who let posts by both of them go completely unchallenged over the past month or so... Why? You all spoke up when others did it. Whats the difference?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

Why couldn't you? Are you inherently incapable of leaving me alone? Seriously - Why is that you cannot just stay out of my life.

He responded to one of your posts. Your life remains stayed out of.

[classicman]

I'm a little surprised at you HM. Although you and I have disagreed quite a bit and have differing views, I've always respected your opinion and your position - till that post.
Nitpicking on an expression is lower than I really thought you would go.

If what I observed is wrong -- that day after day, you post links that find fault with Obama, Democrats, Global Warming, Mexicans, Muslims and yet, never tell the full story, but you add a baseless or sarcastic remark as if your link is factual....then I will apologize.

You want examples? Most recently, the fact is that you posted racially charged remarks because you were completely ignorant of how the ethics process works in the House.

On the funding of national guard troops on the border...again, you are ignorant of the facts as to why there has not been funding....yet you offer another sarcastic remark.

Try relying less on half-truths and misrepresentation of the facts and we can get along just fine.

[classicman]

Lets try again. I am no longer interested in getting along with you. You burned that bridge long ago. I do not like you nor am I interested in anything you have to say. All you do is parrot the party line. I can get that anywhere. Your constant regurgitation of the same is of no value whatsoever.

Originally Posted by classicman

Lets try again. I am no longer interested in getting along with you. You burned that bridge long ago. I do not like you nor am I interested in anything you have to say. All you do is parrot the party line. I can get that anywhere. Your constant regurgitation of the same is of no value whatsoever.

Hey thats cool.

You keep posting your links that ignore context, dont provide a full picture, or misrepresent the facts.

Add your one-line commentaries...and I will point out that you dont what the fuck you are talking about.

If I point out facts about the appropriations process or the ethics process or voting rights act, or immigration statistics, etc. and you want to call it the party line, thats cool too.

Ignorance by any other name, dude....you still demonstrate consistently that you dont have a clue as to most public policy issues. Its a shame you're not willing to be more open to learning, but evidently would rather get simple pleasures in criticizing what clearly you dont understand.

[Lamplighter]

OK, it's time to Fetchez La Vache

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

~ the ethics process ~

I was responding to the author, you ass. I never called for shit. Get your facts straight.
AND as a matter of fact, I called him out on it.

Originally Posted by classicman

I was responding to the author, you ass. I never called for shit. Get your facts straight.
AND as a matter of fact, I called him out on it.

There are some here who dont like my posting style (no sweat off my ass) but I know and you know and many others here know that you are not the brightest bulb in the Cellar.

For a classicman, you have no class

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

There are some here who dont like my posting style (no sweat off my ass) but I know and you know and many others here know that you are the brightest bulb in the Cellar.

For a classicman, you have class

Ohhh lookie lookie another long winded insult. I know that you underestimate my intelligence and try to degrade me and my opinions every chance you get. It bothers the crap outta you that you cannot convince me to agree with you and your opinions.

Oh and your cheap shot at Shawnee, who is a lapdog to no one and a woman who thinks for herself and demonstrates character, intelligence and humor beyond your understanding, shows what little character you have.

[classicman]

Ya know refuck, you waste a lot of time and words on a well scripted insult. Just simply say fuck off. Taking up for your lapdog was expected. I'm sure I'll get tons of shit from her tomorrow as well. It just doesn't matter anymore - the two of you started it and the board will be full of shit post because you haven't the self control not to let lil ole insignificant me get to you. Pathetic.