Makati City, Philippines - Page 6

wolf · 12-24-2005, 10:16 AM

I think that Tonchi's focus is on getting Luisa to leave.

Tonchi · 12-24-2005, 02:49 PM

Zip, you have not been reading this in any other sense than a WHITE sahib who likes/liked to go to the "exotic" Orient, where by means of your money (and to no small extent your maleness) you fondly remember how you could stay drunk and lazy and dirty and nobody cared, and where women would wait on you or sleep with you without the hang-ups of the civilized world. In other words, the Shore Leave mentality. Well good for you and all your male acquaintances, because you were contributing to the Third World economy in one of the few ways they have one. And like I have said, you make the mistake of thinking that because Orientals smile and bow that means they respect you or are enjoying your company. You are drunk and on "an adventure" or just trying to block out the way your life is elsewhere, so it pleases you to think that because the women are so friendly and easy that means you are a really cool dude, life is good, and these kind of women adore you. King for a Day. King for a DOLLAR.

I'm talking about YOU now, not Slang. Although I don't believe he is telling us everything he is seeing or doing because he can't, Slang is on a mission, he has a job to do which he chooses to make into a series of adventures. I admire him for that, he obviously does it well. But YOU, my dear, have chosen to attack me on a personal level because I do not swoon over the Sailor in Paradise fantasy. Well, you have already told us elsewhere what your life was like in "those days" and also what the extent of your substance abuse was. I did not attack you for that, nor make personal slurs nor tell you to get a life. I did not curse at you or make assumptions about your personality or background. So knock it off, OK? Illusions are a way of life and an industry in the Orient. The Sailor in Paradise fantasy is just that - a fantasy. Glad you enjoyed your fantasy, you were supposed to, but you could just as easily have ended up rolled in some alley depending on the opportunity you gave somebody.

I have no illusions about these fantasies, because I am too well aware of their cost. My best friend could have been sold as a bar girl in Manila, her aunt got a very good offer for her. After all, what else can you do with a worthless girl when nobody is around to marry her and you would rather save the money it takes to feed her? You see, WOMEN are not allowed to have "adventures", in NONE of the places Slang has told us about. They are only permitted, culturally and legally, to have "profitable acquaintenances" and if they don't turn out profitable the woman is labled a whore - even to her face on the street - and that definitely limits her chances in the future. No, I never lived in the Philippines, something else you missed in translation, and for very good reasons I never intend to visit it. Why would I want to? I will not be going to India, San Salvador, or Africa either. That is called smart, not prejudiced. People who DO live there are giving even their lives to get out, "any way you have to, legal or illegal". And one way or another I WILL get my friend of 8 years out of that place. Like everything else in the Third World, all it requires is money and time.

And please don't make any further assumptions about whether I would not be happy anywhere, because you don't have a clue about all the places I have lived and worked and studied and the hundreds of people from countries all around the world who I am in touch with because of my job as a monitor elsewhere. If any of those places HAD been mentioned here I would have been glad to tell you about them. I'll even start a thread about FRESNO, at least I have some great memories of how it was in the '70s.

zippyt · 12-24-2005, 03:13 PM

Point taken , I appoligize for my ASSumptions , I was out of line .

Best of luck getting your friend out and safe .

slang · 12-25-2005, 04:51 AM

I'm drunk off my ass again......

Just thojhght that I';d check in ....

Merry Christmass to all ......

BigV · 12-29-2005, 09:03 PM

welcome home, safe and sound.

wolf · 12-30-2005, 12:34 AM

Welcome back. Make sure you go to your doctor and get the extra strength penacillin shots. You don't know where those girls have been.

slang · 12-30-2005, 07:59 AM

Thank you, thank you.

It wasnt that kind of trip Wolf, really.

I have some small trinkets for you PM me.

richlevy · 01-01-2006, 04:36 PM

Welcome back. Please make sure all international warrants on you have expired before the next GTG.

slang · 02-20-2006, 11:10 PM

When the guys in black jump out and start shooting at me, hit the deck Rich.

There are 20 CDs of photos that I'm still f**king around with from the trip. The vast majority will have zero appeal for you all. Just pics of common places and things that are different from here.

That whole effort is still in the works though. Dont have any idea when it'll be ready though.

wolf · 02-21-2006, 12:10 AM

Given that after you left Pakistan there was a massive earthquake, and your departure from the Philipines preceded the mudslides, you may have trouble going to any other foreign lands for a while ...

(Can't wait to see the pictures, but I'll wait anyway.)

slang · 02-21-2006, 12:16 AM

Maybe a trip to Philly would be in order. Just to visit though.

Elspode · 02-21-2006, 12:17 PM

It *has* been quite awhile since Philly had a major natural disaster...

wolf · 02-21-2006, 01:16 PM

You think I chose this area for the historical importance? Pennsylvania is about as geologically and meterologically stable as we get here in the U.S.

glatt · 02-21-2006, 01:21 PM

And it's been a while since any cops there dropped bombs on row houses...

slang · 02-21-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

Pennsylvania is about as geologically and meterologically stable as we get here in the U.S.

But mentally stable......(ba-doom, pish)

12-24-2005, 10:16 AM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think that Tonchi's focus is on getting Luisa to leave. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-24-2005, 02:49 PM	#2
Tonchi Victim of gravity Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hiding in plain sight Posts: 1,412	Zip, you have not been reading this in any other sense than a WHITE sahib who likes/liked to go to the "exotic" Orient, where by means of your money (and to no small extent your maleness) you fondly remember how you could stay drunk and lazy and dirty and nobody cared, and where women would wait on you or sleep with you without the hang-ups of the civilized world. In other words, the Shore Leave mentality. Well good for you and all your male acquaintances, because you were contributing to the Third World economy in one of the few ways they have one. And like I have said, you make the mistake of thinking that because Orientals smile and bow that means they respect you or are enjoying your company. You are drunk and on "an adventure" or just trying to block out the way your life is elsewhere, so it pleases you to think that because the women are so friendly and easy that means you are a really cool dude, life is good, and these kind of women adore you. King for a Day. King for a DOLLAR. I'm talking about YOU now, not Slang. Although I don't believe he is telling us everything he is seeing or doing because he can't, Slang is on a mission, he has a job to do which he chooses to make into a series of adventures. I admire him for that, he obviously does it well. But YOU, my dear, have chosen to attack me on a personal level because I do not swoon over the Sailor in Paradise fantasy. Well, you have already told us elsewhere what your life was like in "those days" and also what the extent of your substance abuse was. I did not attack you for that, nor make personal slurs nor tell you to get a life. I did not curse at you or make assumptions about your personality or background. So knock it off, OK? Illusions are a way of life and an industry in the Orient. The Sailor in Paradise fantasy is just that - a fantasy. Glad you enjoyed your fantasy, you were supposed to, but you could just as easily have ended up rolled in some alley depending on the opportunity you gave somebody. I have no illusions about these fantasies, because I am too well aware of their cost. My best friend could have been sold as a bar girl in Manila, her aunt got a very good offer for her. After all, what else can you do with a worthless girl when nobody is around to marry her and you would rather save the money it takes to feed her? You see, WOMEN are not allowed to have "adventures", in NONE of the places Slang has told us about. They are only permitted, culturally and legally, to have "profitable acquaintenances" and if they don't turn out profitable the woman is labled a whore - even to her face on the street - and that definitely limits her chances in the future. No, I never lived in the Philippines, something else you missed in translation, and for very good reasons I never intend to visit it. Why would I want to? I will not be going to India, San Salvador, or Africa either. That is called smart, not prejudiced. People who DO live there are giving even their lives to get out, "any way you have to, legal or illegal". And one way or another I WILL get my friend of 8 years out of that place. Like everything else in the Third World, all it requires is money and time. And please don't make any further assumptions about whether I would not be happy anywhere, because you don't have a clue about all the places I have lived and worked and studied and the hundreds of people from countries all around the world who I am in touch with because of my job as a monitor elsewhere. If any of those places HAD been mentioned here I would have been glad to tell you about them. I'll even start a thread about FRESNO, at least I have some great memories of how it was in the '70s. __________________ Everything you've ever heard about Fresno is true.

12-24-2005, 03:13 PM	#3
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Point taken , I appoligize for my ASSumptions , I was out of line . Best of luck getting your friend out and safe . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

12-29-2005, 09:03 PM	#5
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	welcome home, safe and sound. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

12-30-2005, 12:34 AM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Welcome back. Make sure you go to your doctor and get the extra strength penacillin shots. You don't know where those girls have been. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-25-2005, 04:51 AM	#4
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	I'm drunk off my ass again...... Just thojhght that I';d check in .... Merry Christmass to all ......

12-30-2005, 07:59 AM	#7
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Thank you, thank you. It wasnt that kind of trip Wolf, really. I have some small trinkets for you PM me.

01-01-2006, 04:36 PM	#8
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Welcome back. Please make sure all international warrants on you have expired before the next GTG. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

02-20-2006, 11:10 PM	#9
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	When the guys in black jump out and start shooting at me, hit the deck Rich. There are 20 CDs of photos that I'm still f**king around with from the trip. The vast majority will have zero appeal for you all. Just pics of common places and things that are different from here. That whole effort is still in the works though. Dont have any idea when it'll be ready though.

02-21-2006, 12:10 AM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Given that after you left Pakistan there was a massive earthquake, and your departure from the Philipines preceded the mudslides, you may have trouble going to any other foreign lands for a while ... (Can't wait to see the pictures, but I'll wait anyway.) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-21-2006, 12:16 AM	#11
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Maybe a trip to Philly would be in order. Just to visit though. __________________ FTFF

02-21-2006, 12:17 PM	#12
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	It has been quite awhile since Philly had a major natural disaster... __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

02-21-2006, 01:16 PM	#13
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You think I chose this area for the historical importance? Pennsylvania is about as geologically and meterologically stable as we get here in the U.S. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-21-2006, 01:21 PM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	And it's been a while since any cops there dropped bombs on row houses...

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