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classicman · 05-24-2010, 01:39 PM

I know what you are saying, but none of them were born by C-section. They were all natural births. Still you can plan the beginning to get the end date sorta close, but as Pie said - that would mean there are 23+ thousand of them.
Either way its still kinda weird.

squirell nutkin · 05-24-2010, 02:47 PM

My dad, my son and I are all born on the 30th of different months. What are the odds of that?

glatt · 05-24-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I know what you are saying, but none of them were born by C-section. They were all natural births. Still you can plan the beginning to get the end date sorta close, but as Pie said - that would mean there are 23+ thousand of them.
Either way its still kinda weird.

You can also induce. And each generation has a dozen tries or so to get it right. If you make it a priority.

If it's random, then yeah, it's pretty unlikely. But if you were weird and made it a priority, you could pretty much nail it. Eventually.

Shawnee123 · 05-24-2010, 03:20 PM

The last child was not C-section, that much we know. The article doesn't say none of the rest of them were c-section, that I saw anyway.

So, Grandpa's son could've been c-section, then grandson was just close and they could have induced, or even drawn it out to make it fall on the right date.

I only say this because I was born on my dad's birthday. I was c-section.

classicman · 05-24-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I know what you are saying, but none of them were born by C-section.

The initial article and I were wrong....Updated info.

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Lee's partner, Lisa Baker, 33, spent a hefty 36 hours in labour at King George's Hospital before baby Benjamin, was eventually delivered by emergency Caesarean section at 11:55am

Pete Zicato · 05-24-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin

My dad, my son and I are all born on the 30th of different months. What are the odds of that?

Well it's been a while since I took stats, but lets see if I can get it.

The odds of any one of you being born on a 30th is 12/365. Twelve 30ths in a year. 365 days in a year.

The odds of all of you being born on a 30th is the odds of each one multipled together so (12^3) / (365^3).

Pretty sure that's right.

Or perhaps you were being rhetorical.

Pie · 05-24-2010, 05:35 PM

There isn't a February 30th.

Pete Zicato · 05-24-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

There isn't a February 30th.

Oops. Bound to get something wrong.

So that means singleton odds - 11/365.

All of them = (11^3) / (365^3).

ZenGum · 05-25-2010, 08:11 AM

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Bookmakers have worked out the odds of three generations of the same family all having boys born on the same day as 272,910 to one.

For three generations on the same day, ignoring leap years, assuming random birth dates and one child per generation, I figure:

Grandpa born on any day = 1/1 chance, since it sets the day.

Father born on same day = 1/365.

Son also born on same day = another 1/365.

= (1/365)/365
= 1/133,225

If you require that all three are born on a specified date (eg May 8th) it is another 1/365 (for Grandpa to also be born on that date) which works out at 1 / 48,627,125.

I don't think the date can be set in advance, so I go for 1 / 133,225.

However, given that each generation has more than one child, and birth timings are not random, the real odds should be substantially lower. It's very hard to say, but allowing 3 children per generation and some tendency to deliberate seasonal breeding, I'd guess somewhere in the 1 / 30,000 to 50,000 range.

Really there must be scads of them.

classicman · 05-25-2010, 09:36 AM

In that case, I guess it isn't weird - I withdraw my post.

Pie · 05-25-2010, 09:48 AM

I was also trying to factor in the 50/50 split that each successive generation could have had a daughter and not a son -- and then the 2.2 children per 'average' family.

That got me closer to their number.

ZenGum · 05-26-2010, 08:41 AM

Okay, if you stipulate all three must be male, that narrows it down, but if you allow two children per generation that puts is back up. And in older generations the average number was higher.

My high school mate shares his birthday with his daughter.

I reckon Pie knows this already, but ... how many people do you think you would need in a group to give a 50% or more chance that two people share a birthday?

Pie · 05-26-2010, 10:24 AM

...waiting...

jinx · 05-26-2010, 10:30 AM

My birthday is the day after my mother's. The girl shares a birthday with her aunt. Jim shares a birthday with my sister's husband.

Shawnee123 · 05-26-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie

...waiting...

Don't look at me! I sux at maths.

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classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I know what you are saying, but none of them were born by C-section. They were all natural births. Still you can plan the beginning to get the end date sorta close, but as Pie said - that would mean there are 23+ thousand of them. Either way its still kinda weird. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	The last child was not C-section, that much we know. The article doesn't say none of the rest of them were c-section, that I saw anyway. So, Grandpa's son could've been c-section, then grandson was just close and they could have induced, or even drawn it out to make it fall on the right date. I only say this because I was born on my dad's birthday. I was c-section. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

05-24-2010, 05:35 PM	#952
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	There isn't a February 30th. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

05-25-2010, 09:36 AM	#955
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	In that case, I guess it isn't weird - I withdraw my post. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt Last edited by classicman; 05-25-2010 at 10:37 AM.

05-25-2010, 09:48 AM	#956
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	I was also trying to factor in the 50/50 split that each successive generation could have had a daughter and not a son -- and then the 2.2 children per 'average' family. That got me closer to their number. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

05-26-2010, 08:41 AM	#957
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Okay, if you stipulate all three must be male, that narrows it down, but if you allow two children per generation that puts is back up. And in older generations the average number was higher. My high school mate shares his birthday with his daughter. I reckon Pie knows this already, but ... how many people do you think you would need in a group to give a 50% or more chance that two people share a birthday? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

05-26-2010, 10:24 AM	#958
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	...waiting... __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

05-26-2010, 10:30 AM	#959
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