The Blasphemy Challenge - Page 7

KGZotU · 03-10-2007, 08:54 AM

It sounds like we've found an area of agreement. (;

Since I apparently was not entirely clear, I did not discuss the actions of Christians for the purpose of focus. Atheists should be righteous, Christians should be righteous, everyone should be righteous. And in a world where any group is not, I understand that this rather challenges the options of the opposition.

--Joe

Toymented · 03-10-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

What can be GAINED from the denouncement?

To whom will it prove a point?

We aren't 100% sure one way or another, so why take the risk in the event it is true?

Corps...God... and Country.

1. Others will be emboldened, encouraged, and liberated.

2. Some ARE 100% sure!

3. Freedom baby!

03-10-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You have done it by not setting a standard.

Yes, this video can be confrontational and I won't avoid that fact, but it does have some justification. Christians have forced their religion onto everyone and this is just atheists pushing back. I would like to see an atheist go onto national television and briefly explain what atheism is and get rid of the stereotypes but that won't happen because that person would never get aired. It would be like trying to set up a sit in protest when you can't even get into the restaurant.

Exactly, just like you will never hear on television that there are nineteen states where it is illegal to hold office as an atheist.

Jim, did you even read the previous posts or is that a tail-post?

lumberjim · 03-10-2007, 11:28 PM

I read the whole thread, hammer. did you not understand my point?

03-12-2007, 01:58 AM

No I did not and that is why I asked if you read the thread is because I, and others, stated multiple times that this was not about xians in any way, not for them and has nothing to do with them.
That they do not like the language or anything else to do with the challenge is irrelevant.
It is not for them.

lumberjim · 03-12-2007, 11:49 AM

really?

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Originally Posted by your first post in the thread

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lumberjim · 03-12-2007, 11:51 AM

anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-12-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe.

It is accepted as a society that God does exists so it would be blasphemy on sociological sense and not personal which is the point of the video.

lumberjim · 03-12-2007, 01:53 PM

so, then it's just being shitty. ok. have fun with it.

03-12-2007, 01:57 PM

Exactly, but the egocentric are going to always see the world filtered through themselves and cannot see it any way else.
"This is about me because I choose for it to be. I choose to be offended, so it is offensive".

HungLikeJesus · 03-13-2007, 09:43 AM

I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?)

Pie · 03-13-2007, 11:58 AM

Politics frequently is religion, and vice versa. But I'm sure you know that.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-13-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?)

Ask homosexuals or any other minority what religion has done.

I don't mind religion at its base, just when people start forcing their religion on other people is when I start getting annoyed of it.

Flint · 03-13-2007, 02:52 PM

Suppressing science and knowledge, casting the world into a dark age... hmmm, who was that again?

Trilby · 03-13-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Suppressing science and knowledge, casting the world into a dark age... hmmm, who was that again?

You?

03-10-2007, 08:54 AM	#91
KGZotU Vivacious Vivisectionist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 36	It sounds like we've found an area of agreement. (; Since I apparently was not entirely clear, I did not discuss the actions of Christians for the purpose of focus. Atheists should be righteous, Christians should be righteous, everyone should be righteous. And in a world where any group is not, I understand that this rather challenges the options of the opposition. --Joe __________________ "An extended limb is a broken limb."

03-10-2007, 11:28 PM	#94
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I read the whole thread, hammer. did you not understand my point? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-12-2007, 11:51 AM	#97
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-12-2007, 01:53 PM	#99
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	so, then it's just being shitty. ok. have fun with it. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-13-2007, 09:43 AM	#101
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?) __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-12-2007, 01:58 AM	#95
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	No I did not and that is why I asked if you read the thread is because I, and others, stated multiple times that this was not about xians in any way, not for them and has nothing to do with them. That they do not like the language or anything else to do with the challenge is irrelevant. It is not for them.

03-12-2007, 01:57 PM	#100
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Exactly, but the egocentric are going to always see the world filtered through themselves and cannot see it any way else. "This is about me because I choose for it to be. I choose to be offended, so it is offensive".

03-13-2007, 11:58 AM	#102
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Politics frequently is religion, and vice versa. But I'm sure you know that. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

03-13-2007, 02:52 PM	#104
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Suppressing science and knowledge, casting the world into a dark age... hmmm, who was that again? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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