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[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by wolf

Don't mind him, radar. Spexxvet was picked last for kickball.

Now why would you have to put in your two cents on his behalf. I was debating respectfully - where were you when he started belittling me? Do you support people just because they think like you, even when they act like assholes? Oh yeah, as a Christian conservative repubican, I guess you do.

[Shawnee123]

Because the M.O around here has become to treat anyone who doesn't agree with you like an uneducated piece of shit. Hey, it's just like a job!

I expected more from Wolf, too.

Disappointing, to say the least.

[wolf]

Radar happens to say a lot of crazy things that I don't come even close to agreeing with, but he's right on with this stuff.

And by the way ... I'm neither Christian nor a Republican.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by wolf

Radar happens to say a lot of crazy things that I don't come even close to agreeing with, but he's right on with this stuff.
...

And that's cause to insult me?

[Shawnee123]

Yep, nice insults from all. Thanks Rkz...though everyone thinks you're an ass I make a concerted effort to listen to you and give a shit.

I'm done with this place. You're not the nice people I once thought. Have a great time. Luckily I have a right to think you suck.

[zippyt]

BuBy

[Shawnee123]

Buby cunt-whore-fuck (look I fit in, I fit in!)

[Radar]

Originally Posted by wolf

Radar happens to say a lot of crazy things that I don't come even close to agreeing with, but he's right on with this stuff.

And by the way ... I'm neither Christian nor a Republican.

I am also neither of those things

[Cloud]

NO! a thousand times NO!

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I have been nothing but respectful to you in this thread. I understand what you've said, I just think you're WRONG. I don't think you're stupid, just WRONG. Oh, you're an asshole, too.

So that and taunting him about the election results* was reasoned argument? I must have missed something, somewhere.

* I applaud Radar's courage in running with the deck stacked against him to that extent.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Buby cunt-whore-fuck (look I fit in, I fit in!)

Perhaps not. If you did, you would realize that BuBy is zip-ese for "On your way out, don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you."

[piercehawkeye45]

No one can be right on this argument because it is opinion. I can say we don't have free will and bring a damn good argument supporting my position and you could say we do have free will and bring a damn good argument supporting your position and how would we determine who is right if you can't prove it (you can not prove a having or lacking free will by the way).

Originally Posted by radar

1. Humans didn't invent rights. They always existed, and humans merely discovered them in much the same way they discovered gravity. Rights are not "abstract concepts" or an idea. They are a tangible reality.

Then how can you be born without human rights? If it is a tangible reality that means you could be born without it, then how can you be born without human rights?

Originally Posted by radar

2. The human world is the world we live in. One could easily argue that without humans the universe would cease to exist entirely. It's the old tree falling with nobody around to hear it thing. If nobody existed with the cognitive ability to comprehend the universe, would it even exist? Without any humans alive on earth, there would still be human rights. There just wouldn't be any humans to exercise them.

This could be true, but it is a very human self-centered idea that seems to be disproven everywhere in the universe saying that humans aren't anything special in the eyes of the universe.

Originally Posted by radar

3. I didn't say we can't do things that "effect" other people, I said we can't do things that violate the person, property, or rights of non-consenting others.

If you "effect" someone negatively, you violate someone’s rights as a person.

Originally Posted by radar

6. Humans alone have natural human rights. We are above all other creatures due to our higher level of sentience, and our ability to reason and to think outside of ourselves.

So when did humans start to have human rights? Was there suddenly a time when we had these rights or what?

Originally Posted by radar

Our rights do not include going through life without being offended or getting your feelings hurt. Nobody can steal your pride. Nobody else controls your pride or self-esteem but yourself.

How do you know? What makes you think that your version of human rights are the right one?

Originally Posted by radar

I've broken it down to a level even a child can understand, but in your case, I'll break it down further.

We understand what you are saying and actually agree more than you think we do but we just disagree on a few aspects. Well at least I do.

Originally Posted by radar

You are free to join the ranks of the most heinous sociopaths of history by trying to deny the reality that human rights exist, but these claims merit the same consideration as denying existence of gravity.

Once you join a society then you do have rights and I'm sure no one here denies that it is just that without a society, you don't have any rights because society invented that concept so people could live peacefully with each other.

[zippyt]

Zip-ese

Well !! I didn't know that a language had been named after me ,
This could be fun !!!

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by wolf

Perhaps not. If you did, you would realize that BuBy is zip-ese for "On your way out, don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you."

Yeah, ugly bitch...I got that. You really did turn out to be the cunt everyone said you are...I would think if you look like that you would try to be a nicer person. You know, so you had SOMETHING going for you.

buby bubitch

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by zippyt

Zip-ese

Well !! I didn't know that a language had been named after me ,
This could be fun !!!

Complete with the total inability to spell. Just like your hick people.