NFL Should Dump Vick

Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz

why hasnt anyone just assassinated the prick yet. i would volunteer but i am alas, too far away.

"release the hounds" i say

Of course, why wait to find out if he's guilty!?

Originally Posted by yesman065

Yes I went to one once - does that have any bearing on the situation with dogfighting? Not to me. A slaughterhouse is designed to provide food. Dogfighting...??? As I said a long stretch -

I see, why the animal suffers matters. If that works for you, cool.
For me, six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. The end is the same, so it is the same.
I don't like either.
Dog racing, bullfighting, horse racing, this, cock-fighting (still legal in some places in the US), the way we raise chickens, pigs and run our slaughter houses... all the same.
Vic is just us exercising our collective guilt.... IF he is guilty, that is.
To date, he is NOT.

[yesman065]

I so wish I had sound at work - it still looks funny though.

[freshnesschronic]

Dude, that clip is a great find rk.

[yesman065]

Vick 'one of the heavyweights' in dogfighting

"He's a pit bull fighter," the source said of Vick. "He's one of the ones that they call 'the big boys': that's who bets a large dollar. And they have the money to bet large money. As I'm talking about large money -- $30,000 to $40,000 -- even higher. He's one of the heavyweights."

[yesman065]

And from another ESPN article

Poindexter told The Associated Press Wednesday he still doesn't have solid evidence linking Vick to dogfighting. He said there are no eyewitnesses who say they saw dogfighting at the home where 66 dogs were seized along with equipment that could be associated with dog fighting. The discoveries were made during a drug raid at the home on April 25.

Police also found items associated with dog fighting, including treadmills and a "pry bar'' used to pry apart a dog's jaws. Poindexter has said they also found a bloodied carpet and blood splatters on the floor in a room over the garage.

Vick, a native of Newport News who starred at Virginia Tech, is a registered dog breeder. He said he let a cousin, Davon Boddie, live at the house, and that he didn't know a large kennel on the property could be involved in criminal activity.

[Clodfobble]

The discoveries were made during a drug raid at the home on April 25.

Wait, what?

Did they find any drugs?

[yesman065]

Then ther would have been a few missing children and Bush would be getting the blame.

[Shawnee123]

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[wolf]

Now I've heard everything.

I just heard this on the radio. A prison inmate is claiming, "Michael Vick stole my pitbulls, sold them on ebay and used the proceeds to buy missiles from Iran."

[bluecuracao]

Is he suing? That would just about cover it.

[yesman065]

Richmond, Va. — Facing the possibility of a new indictment, which includes racketeering charges, Falcons quarterback Michael Vick will most likely join his three co-defendants and agree this week to a plea deal with prosecutors in his federal dogfighting case, according to two people with knowledge of the case.

Vick has not made a final decision, because he wants to hear from the NFL what a guilty plea would do to his football career.

"It is a very good chance he will plead guilty," said one of the people who spoke on condition of anonymity. "He definitely wants to play football again. His love is for football. And he would love to play for the Falcons again. But first and foremost is to get back on the field."

[xoxoxoBruce]

Apparently one of Vick's bros has turned state's evidence and the other two will jump on the bandwagon this morning.
Speculation is Vick will plea bargain and go down for at least a year.

[yesman065]

Yeah, I heard this morning that he was worried about how long he would be out of football - the commentators suggested that his focus be more on how long he would be in jail. 3-5 years with a plea down to 1 year and less actually served for good behavior.

[smurfalicious]

The NFL has made it clear that a decision as to Mike Vick's punishment for violation of league policies won't be made until after he pleads guilty to pending charges, if he indeed pleads guilty.

But to the extent that Vick or anyone else thinks that a suspension will be served while he is in prison, we don't think it should be that simple or easy for him.

In order to make the suspension have the intended deterrent effect on other players, the suspension should not begin until after Vick is released from custody.

Commissioner Roger Goodell has broad discretion in determining Vick's punishment. Under the Personal Conduct Policy, Goodell has sole authority to fashion the penalty, and he likewise is the person who will review the decision on appeal.

If Vick pleads guilty, he likely won't be sentenced until November or December. If his jail term starts in January 2008, he'll be unavailable for the entire 2008 season. If Goodell imposes a one-year suspension that begins after Vick is released, Vick will be knocked out for the 2009 campaign.

Though we don't think that Vick will get a lifetime ban from Goodell, we think that it will be for at least two years -- one year for dog fighting, and one year for gambling. If the suspensions start after he gets out of jail, he won't be eligible to be back on the field until 2011, when he'll be 31 years old.

Even then, we're not sure anyone will sign him -- and we have a feeling that the NFL owners will be urged by the powers-that-be never to bring Vick back to the league, since to do so would provide a constant reminder of one of the most troubling player misconduct episodes in NFL history.

(emphasis mine)

Per published reports, Mike Vick has until 9:00 a.m. EDT to accept a deal that would entail pleading guilty to pending conspiracy charges in exchange for a recommendation by prosecutors of a 12-18 month jail term...

If Vick doesn't take the deal, he most likely will be indicted on more charges next week. There still has been no mention (that we've seen) as to whether a guilty plea on federal charges will include a commitment that he won't be prosecuted in Virginia for dog fighting, animal cruelty, or gambling.