Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week - Page 8

DanaC · 11-01-2007, 05:29 PM

Regardless of who controlled the land...individual people owned individual houses and now live in permanent refugee camps, whilst the people who drove them from their homes occupy those houses or houses built upon the land the Palestinian family vacated.

Radar · 11-01-2007, 05:29 PM

There has never been a minute in the last 3000 years where Jews did not live in the area known as Israel. The Arabs who lived there did not ever own a single grain of sand let alone any actual land. The land was owned by various empires. The Roman, Egyptian, Ottoman, and British empires all owned it at different times.

Those who lived on the land (Jews and Arabs) didn't own the land during these years. When the land was given to them in 1947, it was the first time any Arabs had owned any part of the land they were squatting on.

Israel is the home of the Jews in the same way China is the homeland of the Chinese. To claim otherwise is either dishonest or laughably stupid.

Radar · 11-01-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Regardless of who controlled the land...individual people owned individual houses and now live in permanent refugee camps, whilst the people who drove them from their homes occupy those houses or houses built upon the land the Palestinian family vacated.

Oh, so if you own land that you don't live on, and I build a house on it. You're the bad guy when you tear down the house and make me leave?

Happy Monkey · 11-01-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Israel is the home of the Jews in the same way China is the homeland of the Chinese. To claim otherwise is either dishonest or laughably stupid.

Nope. Jews predate Israel.

DanaC · 11-01-2007, 06:05 PM

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Oh, so if you own land that you don't live on, and I build a house on it. You're the bad guy when you tear down the house and make me leave?

If I am the Israelis in this instance then I never owned the land in the first place. Somebody bigger than me stole it from you and handed me the keys.

11-01-2007, 06:09 PM

I always assume Zionists think we should give NY & or FL back to the Native Americans & TX back to Mexico.

Undertoad · 11-01-2007, 06:45 PM

If somebody stole my land I'd convince my children to blow themselves up in those people's buses and pizza shops!

Oh, no wait, I wouldn't. I'd get over it. I'd love my children and teach them to love.

DanaC · 11-01-2007, 06:48 PM

What if you and your children were living in cramped unhealthy conditions and they risked a sniper bullet in the head when they left the house?

lookout123 · 11-01-2007, 06:52 PM

maybe if i (and my neighbors)didn't send them out with explosives on them i wouldn't have to worry about snipers.

DanaC · 11-01-2007, 06:56 PM

Suicide bombing is a relatively new phenomenon. I do believe it is a response to the brutalising effects of occupation. And the effects are brutal.

lookout123 · 11-01-2007, 07:06 PM

it's not a response. it is a choice. a response is when the doctor hits your knee with a hammer and your leg bounces. A causes B. I'm pretty sure that no man, woman, or child has every woken up and thought "this occuption sucks" and spontaneously exploded.

I'm not suggesting that the situation is anything less than shit, but blowing yourself and non-combatants up is not a response to anything other than a persons fucked up allegiance to a misguided notion.

Aliantha · 11-01-2007, 07:08 PM

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I'm pretty sure that no man, woman, or child has every woken up and thought "this occuption sucks" and spontaneously exploded

My brain did. You can see evidence of it all over this message board.

Radar · 11-01-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Nope. Jews predate Israel.

Yep. Chinese people predate China, but China is still the home of the Chinese people exactly the same way that Israel is the homeland of the Jews.

Radar · 11-01-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

If I am the Israelis in this instance then I never owned the land in the first place. Somebody bigger than me stole it from you and handed me the keys.

No, if you're Israel, someone stole it from you, someone stole it from them, someone stole it from them, and then that person broke it in pieces and give you some of it back.

Radar · 11-01-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

If somebody stole my land I'd convince my children to blow themselves up in those people's buses and pizza shops!

Oh, no wait, I wouldn't. I'd get over it. I'd love my children and teach them to love.

Excellent point, though to be more accurate, the land was never yours to begin with so it wasn't stolen from you.

11-01-2007, 05:29 PM	#107
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	There has never been a minute in the last 3000 years where Jews did not live in the area known as Israel. The Arabs who lived there did not ever own a single grain of sand let alone any actual land. The land was owned by various empires. The Roman, Egyptian, Ottoman, and British empires all owned it at different times. Those who lived on the land (Jews and Arabs) didn't own the land during these years. When the land was given to them in 1947, it was the first time any Arabs had owned any part of the land they were squatting on. Israel is the home of the Jews in the same way China is the homeland of the Chinese. To claim otherwise is either dishonest or laughably stupid. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

11-01-2007, 06:52 PM	#114
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	maybe if i (and my neighbors)didn't send them out with explosives on them i wouldn't have to worry about snipers. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-01-2007, 07:06 PM	#116
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	it's not a response. it is a choice. a response is when the doctor hits your knee with a hammer and your leg bounces. A causes B. I'm pretty sure that no man, woman, or child has every woken up and thought "this occuption sucks" and spontaneously exploded. I'm not suggesting that the situation is anything less than shit, but blowing yourself and non-combatants up is not a response to anything other than a persons fucked up allegiance to a misguided notion. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-01-2007, 05:29 PM	#106
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Regardless of who controlled the land...individual people owned individual houses and now live in permanent refugee camps, whilst the people who drove them from their homes occupy those houses or houses built upon the land the Palestinian family vacated.

11-01-2007, 06:09 PM	#111
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I always assume Zionists think we should give NY & or FL back to the Native Americans & TX back to Mexico.

11-01-2007, 06:45 PM	#112
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	If somebody stole my land I'd convince my children to blow themselves up in those people's buses and pizza shops! Oh, no wait, I wouldn't. I'd get over it. I'd love my children and teach them to love.

11-01-2007, 06:48 PM	#113
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	What if you and your children were living in cramped unhealthy conditions and they risked a sniper bullet in the head when they left the house?

11-01-2007, 06:56 PM	#115
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Suicide bombing is a relatively new phenomenon. I do believe it is a response to the brutalising effects of occupation. And the effects are brutal.

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