Tales from the Nuthouse: Lest You Think I have a Really Cool Job - Page 8

Shawnee123 · 01-07-2009, 03:28 PM

The Office Space scene is applicable.

Consultants...heeheee

Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, consult.

SteveDallas · 01-07-2009, 03:46 PM

There are good consultants out there, believe it or not.

The problem is, consultants, like anybody else, are beholden to whoever is paying them. The person who decided to bring in the consultant is paying them and decides what questions the consultant is supposed to answer. In the best case scenario, the consultant will hand back the "correct" answer to the question even if it's not an answer the client likes. But even in this case, if they've started off trying to answer the wrong questions, the whole exercise is pointless.

Shawnee123 · 01-07-2009, 03:49 PM

I know...I was just kidding, mostly thinking about consulting as it pertains to "head-choppers" or whatever they call the ones they call in to fire a bunch of people so management doesn't have to take responsibility for it.

In fact, I've considered the possibility of doing consulting for FA offices: my experience is well-rounded enough, having been trained in the trenches in my past job. Consulting as in "what could we be doing better?"

However, I cannot see me running a business.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-07-2009, 03:50 PM

Worse than pointless, misleading and disastrous.

Shawnee123 · 01-07-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Worse than pointless, misleading and disastrous.

Who, me?

Well duh, who didn't know that?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-07-2009, 04:07 PM

I was responding to Steve, you cut in line. :p

dar512 · 01-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

How many people work there?

About half?

TheMercenary · 01-10-2009, 07:41 AM

Half a person? How'd they do that.

wolf · 02-25-2009, 08:06 PM

Real and True Phone Call.

wolf: Hi, this is wolf from The Nuthouse™. I need to speak to a nurse about Patient CrazyPersonWeWantOutofOurNiceMedicalHospital.

ward clerk: Do you need to speak to a nurse?

wolf: Yeah. (Honey, I really hope that you don't have any actual patient care responsibilties. You're blonde, aren't you?)

Oh, the things that I want to say that I'm not allowed to say because I choose not to get in trouble with the boss right now. He ends up apologizing enough for things that I do absolutely right.

02-26-2009, 05:37 AM

Healthcare and ancillary workers at many levels, especially those who deal with the mentally impaired, are taught to reflect patients' questions and comments back to them so that patients may pursue their own direction when verbalizing trains of thought. Unfortunately, this technique is often misused by poor/indifferent listeners and procrastinators in the healthcare industry who apply it to anyone saying anything that they are not particularly interested in ... like requests for them to do their jobs. It's somewhat analogous to supervisors who talk to subordinates the way they talk to their children at home. These traits aren't necessarily indicative of low intelligence; so, it's best to counter them with caution. It's often just a character flaw which demarcates those people as indifferent assholes.

Trilby · 02-26-2009, 06:53 AM

I disagree. It's just stupidity.

Clodfobble · 02-26-2009, 08:54 AM

I have the same problem with the large number of elementary-school teachers in my family.

lookout123 · 02-26-2009, 02:07 PM

You reflect their questions back at them? Kind of strange if you ask me.

dar512 · 02-26-2009, 02:18 PM

So you're saying you think that's unusual?

lookout123 · 02-26-2009, 02:24 PM

Do you question it's unusualness?

01-07-2009, 03:28 PM	#106
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	The Office Space scene is applicable. Consultants...heeheee Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, consult. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-07-2009, 03:49 PM	#108
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I know...I was just kidding, mostly thinking about consulting as it pertains to "head-choppers" or whatever they call the ones they call in to fire a bunch of people so management doesn't have to take responsibility for it. In fact, I've considered the possibility of doing consulting for FA offices: my experience is well-rounded enough, having been trained in the trenches in my past job. Consulting as in "what could we be doing better?" However, I cannot see me running a business. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-07-2009, 03:50 PM	#109
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Worse than pointless, misleading and disastrous. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-07-2009, 04:07 PM	#111
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I was responding to Steve, you cut in line. :p __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-10-2009, 07:41 AM	#113
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Half a person? How'd they do that. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-07-2009, 03:46 PM	#107
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	There are good consultants out there, believe it or not. The problem is, consultants, like anybody else, are beholden to whoever is paying them. The person who decided to bring in the consultant is paying them and decides what questions the consultant is supposed to answer. In the best case scenario, the consultant will hand back the "correct" answer to the question even if it's not an answer the client likes. But even in this case, if they've started off trying to answer the wrong questions, the whole exercise is pointless.

02-25-2009, 08:06 PM	#114
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Real and True Phone Call. wolf: Hi, this is wolf from The Nuthouse™. I need to speak to a nurse about Patient CrazyPersonWeWantOutofOurNiceMedicalHospital. ward clerk: Do you need to speak to a nurse? wolf: Yeah. (Honey, I really hope that you don't have any actual patient care responsibilties. You're blonde, aren't you?) Oh, the things that I want to say that I'm not allowed to say because I choose not to get in trouble with the boss right now. He ends up apologizing enough for things that I do absolutely right. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-26-2009, 05:37 AM	#115
NoBoxes Guest Posts: n/a	Healthcare and ancillary workers at many levels, especially those who deal with the mentally impaired, are taught to reflect patients' questions and comments back to them so that patients may pursue their own direction when verbalizing trains of thought. Unfortunately, this technique is often misused by poor/indifferent listeners and procrastinators in the healthcare industry who apply it to anyone saying anything that they are not particularly interested in ... like requests for them to do their jobs. It's somewhat analogous to supervisors who talk to subordinates the way they talk to their children at home. These traits aren't necessarily indicative of low intelligence; so, it's best to counter them with caution. It's often just a character flaw which demarcates those people as indifferent assholes.

02-26-2009, 06:53 AM	#116
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I disagree. It's just stupidity. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

02-26-2009, 08:54 AM	#117
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I have the same problem with the large number of elementary-school teachers in my family. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

02-26-2009, 02:07 PM	#118
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	You reflect their questions back at them? Kind of strange if you ask me. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

02-26-2009, 02:18 PM	#119
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	So you're saying you think that's unusual? __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

02-26-2009, 02:24 PM	#120
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Do you question it's unusualness? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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