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Old 02-14-2011, 03:36 PM   #1
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Center-righties have plenty of reason to hate the nutcases, especially when they think they're speaking in private.
Some do it in public and get hammered repeatedly by the extremists on both sides.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:49 PM   #2
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That's why I specified "in private". I would guess that lots of center-righties would make
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in private, but not want the shitstorm that would occur if they did so in public (see all the politicians who have had to apologize for being frank about Limbaugh over the years).
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:47 AM   #3
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I really hope the moderate Muslims get what they want.

(That is the most Anti-American statement you will hear for the next 25 years!)
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:21 PM   #4
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I really hope the moderate Muslims get what they want.

(That is the most Anti-American statement you will hear for the next 25 years!)
Egypt is not a Muslim nation. Most Egyptians are Muslim, but many are Christian, and some are Jewish, Bahai, Druze and other.

Egypt has same principle as America for religion. Egypt does have state religion (Islam), but is not mandatory and no political group may be religious in nature.

Egyptians are Egyptians first. You see the Christians form wall of people around Muslims praying during riots? Or Muslim human wall around Coptic church at Christmas? We protect each other from radicals of any group, who are the enemies of Egypt and all of our religions.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:32 AM   #5
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From UT's repost:

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In numerous studies, the majority of reporters lean conservative.
False.

This is one of the few actual scientific studies done on the issue and the second time that UCLA did the same study. The results are the same.

Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist

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"Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co‑author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...UCLA-6664.aspx
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:21 PM   #6
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This is one of the few actual scientific studies done on the issue and the second time that UCLA did the same study. The results are the same.
Reporters for Ted Koppel such as Chris Wallace, Brit Hume, and Jeff Greefield were accused by wacko extremists of being liberals. Then when they worked for Fox News, they were no longer liberal? Fox News has a secret bath house to purify liberal reporters.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:31 PM   #7
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Reporters for Ted Koppel such as Chris Wallace, Brit Hume, and Jeff Greefield were accused by wacko extremists of being liberals. Then when they worked for Fox News, they were no longer liberal? Fox News has a secret bath house to purify liberal reporters.
so does CNN. all networks are going to broadcast what they deem will increase viewers.

just sayin.
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:31 PM   #8
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so does CNN. all networks are going to broadcast what they deem will increase viewers.
Not necessarily. Barbara Walters was all about celebrity interviews. That was popular and profitable. But the conflicts between Barbara Walters and Peter Jennings was summarized by Peter's statement. "That is not news."

The networks (CBS, NBC, and ABC) never made money from their news departments. Which is why CBS, in an effort to maximize profits, is now reported to have only two overseas journalists. Both in London. The (rumored) 52 freelance correspondents under contract to CBS have been released.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:26 PM   #9
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As the 2012 presidential campaign kicks into gear, President Obama's White House media operation is demonstrating an unprecedented ability to broadcast its message through social media and the Internet, at times doing an end-run around the traditional press.

The White House Press Office now not only produces a website, blog, YouTube channel, Flickr photo stream, and Facebook and Twitter profiles, but also a mix of daily video programming, including live coverage of the president's appearances and news-like shows that highlight his accomplishments.

"Advise the Adviser: Your Direct Line to the White House," the administration's latest online program launched last week, encourages viewers to offer "advice, opinions and feedback on important issues" and promises a response from a senior administration official in return.

"We're striving to not just have a passive website where people can read about what's happening but create a method of interaction and feedback," said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.

It joins "Open for Questions," a periodic series of live moderated video chats with officials, "West Wing Week," a magazine-style show featuring the president behind the scenes, and other live-streaming events, including an annotated version of the State of the Union address, all intended to more directly disseminate the administration's message.

But while these innovative communications tools ostensibly offer greater transparency and openness, critics say they have come at a troublesome expense: less accountability of the administration by the independent, mainstream press.

Over the past few months, as White House cameras have been granted free reign behind the scenes, officials have blocked broadcast news outlets from events traditionally open to coverage and limited opportunities to publicly question the president himself.

Obama's recent signing of the historic New START treaty with Russia and his post-State of the Union cabinet meeting, for example, were both closed to reporters in a break with tradition. And during a recent question and answer session with the president and visiting Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the White House imposed an unusual limit of just one question each from the U.S. and Canadian press corps.

"The administration has narrowed access by the mainstream media to an unprecedented extent," said ABC News White House correspondent Ann Compton, who has covered seven administrations. "Access here has shriveled."

Members of the press have always had quibbles with White House media strategies, calling cut-backs in access an affront to transparency, even as administration officials insist they're simply taking advantage of new technologies.

But some say the current dynamic is different, and dangerous.

"They're opening the door to kicking the press out of historic events, and opening the door to having a very filtered format for which they give the American public information that doesn't have any criticism allowed," said University of Minnesota journalism professor and political communication analyst Heather LaMarre.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:50 PM   #10
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wow - just heard Lara Logan was sexually assaulted and beaten friday night while reporting in Cairo.

that is a bummer.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:21 PM   #11
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wow - just heard Lara Logan was sexually assaulted and beaten friday night while reporting in Cairo.

that is a bummer.
This is a disgrace for my country.
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Old 02-16-2011, 07:17 AM   #12
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wow - just heard Lara Logan was sexually assaulted and beaten friday night while reporting in Cairo.

that is a bummer.
That is a bummer. I really like her. I think she is the bomb...um, better choice of words needed. I think she is the A #1 awesomest.
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Old 02-16-2011, 07:22 AM   #13
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I'm not familiar with who she is, but that sucks for her. The little bit I read in the paper made it sound like she went through hell.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:50 AM   #14
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i did not know that. interesting. but then again the major broadcasting networks always did use sitcoms for their income. no surprise there.
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Old 02-16-2011, 07:34 PM   #15
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i did not know that. interesting. but then again the major broadcasting networks always did use sitcoms for their income. no surprise there.
Appreciate a tremendous risk that Ted Turner took when he started CNN. News was not profitable. Turner created a broadcasting news service to make a profit. Because Turner was doing something innovative, he could not raise capital from investment banks – Wall Street. However Michael Milken had developed a way of financing innovators. Junk bonds. In its early days, Drexel Burnham was making possible so many innovative companies. To do things that that ‘we fear to innovate’ Wall Street investment banks would not touch. Risky was to make a profit on broadcasting news.

Drexel Burnham's other success stories are legends of American industry by also doing things so new. Including Steve Wynn's Golden Nugget and Mirage casinos. And many Vegas hotels. Malone's TCI which became the world's biggest cable-TV firm. And numerous Rupert Murdoch projects. All those were also not worthy investments on a Wall Street that could not see innovation even if it is in their cocaine.

Almost nobody thought broadcast news could make a profit.
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