Buying a New Car - Page 9

Clodfobble · 06-29-2015, 04:51 PM

Congrats, classic!

BigV · 07-04-2015, 01:46 AM

Congrats!!!

With that car, you're good to go for the next 25 years.

Gravdigr · 07-04-2015, 02:45 PM

Awesome Classic. Everyone should own a brand new car at least once in their life.

classicman · 07-05-2015, 01:35 PM

Thanks all. Fargon asked in another thread, so I posted a pic there.

glatt · 07-05-2015, 08:37 PM

Just got back from a road trip up to Scranton area. New car kicks ass. Wants to go fast. Is stable at speed.

classicman · 07-06-2015, 10:32 AM

nice!

Griff · 07-06-2015, 09:06 PM

You boys gonna race?

classicman · 07-07-2015, 08:00 AM

Nah, my racing days are over. This car has a CVT.

glatt · 07-07-2015, 08:26 AM

I don't know what CVT means from a driver's point of view.

My car has some sort of stability control where if you try to do some stupid shit at high speed it corrects your input. I haven't tried doing any stupid shit at high speed, so I don't know how well it works.

And instead of just 2 air bags, it has 6! I know this is nothing special these days, but it's cool anyway.

Oh, and XM radio is good, but cuts out more than I like. Even some overhead highway signs make it cut out. My wife digs it though, so we'll probably subscribe after the two month free trial is over.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-07-2015, 09:38 AM

In theory six airbags should be more protection, if they work properly, when you need them. The down side is they're $1000 apiece if they get set off accidently or stolen. Of course it's better to have them than not, but all these bells and whistles come at a price.

The stability control means there is a complicated system of sensors and computers talking to each other and making decisions whether to override your inputs or not. It's doing this while living in a more hostile environment than most electronic systems ever see. Sooner or later, hopefully much later, some part of the system will fail, usually in a fail safe mode. But trouble shooting those systems is difficult and expensive, partly because the software is proprietary and secret. Sure it can be decoded by hackers, but it can't be used in unlicensed diagnostic equipment, putting you at the mercy of the manufacturer(dealer).

Not to cast aspersions on your new car, just a general observation on how complicated they have gotten and the costs. There's no choice either, it applies to every car made these days. Somebody always pipes up, I've got seven bazillion miles on my fluffmobile and never had a lick of trouble. Sure, but the people who have aren't saying anything.

I have an admittedly have a jaundiced eye because the circles I travel in, and publications I read, are full of stories about the exceptions like $2800 Audi head gaskets, $1000 computers (at least a dozen in most cars), and a car totaled by the insurance company because the seats were stolen and it would cost too much to replace them.

glatt · 07-07-2015, 10:06 AM

I tend to agree with you on all points.

My wife had been somewhat unhappy with our old cars for a while and kept talking about buying a brand new one and taking out a loan to pay for it. When this almost new car became available, I saw a way to scratch that new car itch for a fraction of the cost. And I'm digging this car too.

We're gonna sell our Camry as soon as we get around to it. And keep our '95 Prizm. It needs some work though. Probably needs more work than it is worth, but I love that car and think it would be smart to keep it going. And the needing more work than it is worth is simply because it's not worth much of anything at all. It needs a new muffler and a paint job. And I'd like to get better tires for it. Could probably use some struts too. It creaks and groans going over speed humps. And it's got a slight mildew smell inside. I should figure out how to address that.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-07-2015, 10:19 AM

Putting some money in a car you like, vs spending your children's education, plus interest, on a new one? I agree with your choice. However I question the paint job. Since this will be the "second car", so to speak, having primer spots, matte looking paint, and visible duct tape, makes the intimidation factor in an urban environment most valuable.

Oh wait, this is for the girl to drive isn't it. nevermind

Lamplighter · 07-07-2015, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

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Oh wait, this is for the girl to drive isn't it. nevermind

Easy solution: Pink primer

Gravdigr · 07-07-2015, 03:55 PM

My scooter has a CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission).

xoxoxoBruce · 07-07-2015, 05:49 PM

They work pretty well on small hp applications.

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07-06-2015, 10:32 AM	#126
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07-05-2015, 08:37 PM	#125
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Just got back from a road trip up to Scranton area. New car kicks ass. Wants to go fast. Is stable at speed.

07-06-2015, 09:06 PM	#127
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07-07-2015, 08:00 AM	#128
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Nah, my racing days are over. This car has a CVT. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

07-07-2015, 08:26 AM	#129
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I don't know what CVT means from a driver's point of view. My car has some sort of stability control where if you try to do some stupid shit at high speed it corrects your input. I haven't tried doing any stupid shit at high speed, so I don't know how well it works. And instead of just 2 air bags, it has 6! I know this is nothing special these days, but it's cool anyway. Oh, and XM radio is good, but cuts out more than I like. Even some overhead highway signs make it cut out. My wife digs it though, so we'll probably subscribe after the two month free trial is over.

07-07-2015, 09:38 AM	#130
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	In theory six airbags should be more protection, if they work properly, when you need them. The down side is they're $1000 apiece if they get set off accidently or stolen. Of course it's better to have them than not, but all these bells and whistles come at a price. The stability control means there is a complicated system of sensors and computers talking to each other and making decisions whether to override your inputs or not. It's doing this while living in a more hostile environment than most electronic systems ever see. Sooner or later, hopefully much later, some part of the system will fail, usually in a fail safe mode. But trouble shooting those systems is difficult and expensive, partly because the software is proprietary and secret. Sure it can be decoded by hackers, but it can't be used in unlicensed diagnostic equipment, putting you at the mercy of the manufacturer(dealer). Not to cast aspersions on your new car, just a general observation on how complicated they have gotten and the costs. There's no choice either, it applies to every car made these days. Somebody always pipes up, I've got seven bazillion miles on my fluffmobile and never had a lick of trouble. Sure, but the people who have aren't saying anything. I have an admittedly have a jaundiced eye because the circles I travel in, and publications I read, are full of stories about the exceptions like $2800 Audi head gaskets, $1000 computers (at least a dozen in most cars), and a car totaled by the insurance company because the seats were stolen and it would cost too much to replace them. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-07-2015, 10:06 AM	#131
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I tend to agree with you on all points. My wife had been somewhat unhappy with our old cars for a while and kept talking about buying a brand new one and taking out a loan to pay for it. When this almost new car became available, I saw a way to scratch that new car itch for a fraction of the cost. And I'm digging this car too. We're gonna sell our Camry as soon as we get around to it. And keep our '95 Prizm. It needs some work though. Probably needs more work than it is worth, but I love that car and think it would be smart to keep it going. And the needing more work than it is worth is simply because it's not worth much of anything at all. It needs a new muffler and a paint job. And I'd like to get better tires for it. Could probably use some struts too. It creaks and groans going over speed humps. And it's got a slight mildew smell inside. I should figure out how to address that.

07-07-2015, 10:19 AM	#132
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Putting some money in a car you like, vs spending your children's education, plus interest, on a new one? I agree with your choice. However I question the paint job. Since this will be the "second car", so to speak, having primer spots, matte looking paint, and visible duct tape, makes the intimidation factor in an urban environment most valuable. Oh wait, this is for the girl to drive isn't it. nevermind __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-07-2015, 03:55 PM	#134
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	My scooter has a CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission). __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

07-07-2015, 05:49 PM	#135
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They work pretty well on small hp applications. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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