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Old 11-03-2004, 07:50 PM   #121
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The sooner we leave, the better. The longer we stay, the more dead and the deeper the quagmire. When will we EVER learn the lessons that history has to teach?
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:14 PM   #122
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My thoughts on the election outcome.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:25 PM   #123
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Sycamore, what the heck is that? The "wolf-sycamore" commentary show? Or is it an alternate Cellar universe where everything is different colors?

Eh, my comments, here, which replaced my front page and will for the next three days.

There's a whole lot of yelling on the 'net, tonight. ...and a whole lot of good any of it is going to do.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:33 PM   #124
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Sycamore, what the heck is that? The "wolf-sycamore" commentary show?
More or less...don't forget Bruce.

The Bosque replaced the original Sycamore Manifestos in February.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:28 PM   #125
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Ashcroft resigning?

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My thoughts on the election outcome.
If you go to Drudge right now there is this (unlinked) headline:

<b><i>Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... </i></b>

Holy shit! This is a step in the right direction, if true. Maybe there really is a God. Is this going to be 'A Kinder, Gentler America: Part 2'?
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:28 PM   #126
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Wow, Syc. That was -- eloquent.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:40 PM   #127
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If you go to Drudge right now there is this (unlinked) headline:

<b><i>Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... </i></b>

Holy shit! This is a step in the right direction, if true. Maybe there really is a God. Is this going to be 'A Kinder, Gentler America: Part 2'?
Not if he replaces him with Anita Bryant..

Seriously, this could be an attempt to de-politicize the DOJ, or it could be an attempt to bring in someone with less ethics to overlook the indiscretions of large campaign contributors. One thing about Ashcroft is that he was honest. It might be that Karl needs to repay some debts and an honest man would make things complicated.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:45 PM   #128
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Is this going to be 'A Kinder, Gentler America: Part 2'?
Eh...I don't recall things being kindler and gentler during Bush Sr.'s term.
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:14 PM   #129
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If you go to Drudge right now there is this (unlinked) headline:

<b><i>Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... </i></b>

Holy shit! This is a step in the right direction, if true.
Not really. I expect Ashcroft to be replaced with someone just as bad, perhaps not as flamboyant as Mr. Let The Eagle Soar, but equally dangerous.

My stomach has been hurting all day. I hope to get at least a little sleep tonight.
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:04 PM   #130
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Eh...I don't recall things being kindler and gentler during Bush Sr.'s term.
Eh...they were kinder and gentler then than they are now. Maybe Dubya is back smoking dope again. I just dunno.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:31 AM   #131
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mmm-tried to tell her, mari, that republicans tax as much as dems only republicans KEEP the money where dem's redistribute it...she didn't bite. Then she asked me if I'd rec'd my "tax cut"--HA! was no tax cut--was merely an advance on what I would have gotten back anyfuckingway. No response from dag on either point.
whatever.

Good freakin lord, yanno, I do have a JOB where I don't exactly have the ability to respond to your comments.

And I'm not going to bite on a bone that's been drug through the mud. Really no use in it. You're convinced you're right, I'm convinced I'm right. When you put your hackles down (Both of you), maybe we'll be able to talk about this intelligently.

Considering I've been splattered with the mud both of you are slinging, I'm doubting that highly.

But considering I've been called an anti-feminist ignorant bigoted babykiller today, I guess I will just go back to my hole.

Good lord people are ugly today.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:34 AM   #132
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I went looking at the Selective Service website. I did so to confirm some information that I thought I recalled. 18 year olds began having to register with the selective service in 1980, based on a law initiated in July of that year. Who was responsible? Jimmy Carter.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:34 AM   #133
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OK, I tried kissing and making up down in the philosophy forum, and no one seems ready for that. FINE! I still managed to get two graduate degrees and make a better life for myself until something beyond my control happened to me. So what's wrong with YOU? You are whining to the wrong person about bootstraps and minmum wage. Go back to school and shut up.
First off, I don't recall whining. That's more your territory...you seem to have a knack for it. I do what needs to be done, I don't sit around and wish someone else will do it for me.

I have two Bachelor's degree, a Master's degree, and have probably forgotten more about some things than you'll ever hope to learn.

I'm still not sitting there with my hand out waiting for the state to Pay my Rent.

I have a job. It may not pay much, but it pays. I'm not even going to waste my time with this. I was making a civil statement that did not attack you in ANY way, and you start slinging shit.

Try upping your dose of Paxil babe..you need it.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:38 PM   #134
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Is there one? I'm afraid Bush got us into a no-win situation.

In my opinion.........anytime...not excluding yesterday. The real question being, what are we really looking to win? Mid East democracy is a doomed ideal from the outset. A complete fiction. No matter how much we expect to gain from this with fuel, we will never cover the cost of taxpayer dollars and the expense of human lives. We have begun to indebt ourselves to failure.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:56 PM   #135
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Good lord people are ugly today.

What's wrong with everyone? Why must you yell like this? My god... c-can't you see you're all tearing this family apart?

Stop yelling! The kids are going to hear us!
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