The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Arts & Entertainment
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Arts & Entertainment Give meaning to your life or distract you from it for a while

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-18-2009, 08:38 PM   #1411
richlevy
King Of Wishful Thinking
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 6,669
Just finished the newest Dresden novel, Turn Coat. Wow. Butcher tied up a lot of loose threads, and then set them on fire.

The public library is your friend.
__________________
Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE!
I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama
richlevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 01:02 AM   #1412
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
Prospects For Conservatives, Russell Kirk. While he has an unabashed reverence for an ancien régime of aristocracy that I do not share, there's a lot that's seminal here.
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 01:32 PM   #1413
Trilby
Slattern of the Swail
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 15,654
hee hee - UG said Seminal.
__________________
In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic.

"Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her.
—James Barrie


Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum
Trilby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2009, 01:41 AM   #1414
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
Cool

...And there was the poor Indian the Florida State Police arrested and grilled all night until towards dawn the policemen got what they wanted...

*


*


*


*


...a nocturnal Seminole admission.
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2009, 12:07 PM   #1415
wolf
lobber of scimitars
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phila Burbs
Posts: 20,774
Child 44 - Tom Rob Smith

Weird dialog style, pulls you out of the story, otherwise interesting mystery set in Stalinist Russia.

SPQR I: The King's Gambit - John Maddox Roberts

Who knew there was a police procedural mystery story set in Ancient Rome, and a series of them at that?!

Dogs & Goddesses - Jennifer Crusie, Anne Stuart, Lani Diane Rich

Chicklit at it's zaniest. Talking Dogs, Ancient Mesopotamian Goddesses, Math Professors with limited social skills.

Household Gods - Judith Tarr and Harry Turtledove

Quickly became annoying. Too much feminist whining.
__________________
wolf eht htiw og

"Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island

High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis
wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2009, 11:12 PM   #1416
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
Hey, police procedurals set in old times worked for Ellis Peters, Wolf... his Brother Cadfael stuff. Try reading the more recent ones, though; they have a better sense of time and place than the earlier ones, which have from none at all to hardly any.

Feminoxiousness is a killer, isn't it? That's why I'll probably never take up Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Mists of Avalon again.
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2009, 06:06 AM   #1417
DanaC
We have to go back, Kate!
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 25,964
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla View Post

Feminoxiousness is a killer, isn't it? That's why I'll probably never take up Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Mists of Avalon again.
I used to love MZB as a teenager. For a young woman growing up, that kind of consciously feminist (or at least feminism aware) sci-fi really helped balance out a lack of positive female characters and heroes in what was a very male dominated genre.

That said... *smiles*... a bit like any backlash or movement forwards, the pendulum overswings. There's less need for the overtly feminist sci-fi, because 'women's issues' are no longer a separate strand and female lead characters no longer speciality fiction.

I find MZB a little difficult to read now. It's a little like being battered over the head with a feminist manifesto. But it was important work at the time. It broke through some boundaries and helped school a lot of young women in a way of thinking that didn't simply accept that 'hero' was a male concept in fantasy and sci-fi.

It doesn't have to be so obvious now. I went looking for books for my niece who is into fantasy and wild rides. The choices open to her are much greater than were open to me in terms of available character templates and stories. There are lots of strong, interesting, complex and still very girly heroes for her to get her teeth into. And the gender question isn't the biggest thing to answer in these books. MZB was writing against a much more overtly gendered setting, when sci-fi was very, very male and when the position of women in society at large was a very immediate issue.

It was only in the 1990s that British law recognised the possibility of rape in marriage. There are still gender questions to look at and find answers to. But when MZB was writing, it was the big issue for a lot of women. Like all movements, the first few waves tend to be a little strident in how it expresses itself. Eventually it settles down and stops being a 'movement' and starts being just another facet of a wider society (much like the 'civil rights' movement, or Gay Pride) and the issues it raised find their way into the broad sweep of fiction along with everything else. But ya need those first few strident voices to push it along and make changes; otherwise it never does make into the mainstream and remains an excluding factor in cultural production.

Last edited by DanaC; 04-28-2009 at 06:15 AM.
DanaC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2009, 02:19 AM   #1418
Crimson Ghost
Larger than life and twice as ugly.
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,264
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna View Post
SPOOK by Mary Roach. I liked her STIFF. Was hilarious - about what they do with 'donated to medical science/medical schools' bodies. Some of us will end up at the Body Farm, some of us will be in vehicle safety testing...some of us will be getting posthumous facelifts...
I need to read these threads more often....

STIFF was GREAT!
The Wife got to the facelift part, came to me and said -
"You are fuckin' kiddin', right? That's what happens?"
"Sometimes. Thinking about leaving your body to science?"
"Fuck you."
It's a wonderful thing to be at a restaurant, and just look at her, and say those magic words -
"Just below the jaw."
A couple of hours of silence.

Michael Slade.
Go ahead.
You'll love it.
__________________
We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark.

I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them,
I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period.



Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years
Crimson Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2009, 09:50 AM   #1419
Trilby
Slattern of the Swail
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 15,654
Ok, Michael Slade - but which book do you recommend?
__________________
In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic.

"Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her.
—James Barrie


Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum
Trilby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2009, 05:42 PM   #1420
Crimson Ghost
Larger than life and twice as ugly.
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,264
Start with Headhunter.

First line - "The body hung upside down from the ceiling by nails driven through both feet."
How can you not love that?

The books do follow each other, but you can pick up one and start reading, and not really lose much, as the history of the characters is touched on in each book.

Just remember, Zinc Chandler is a badass.

And if the author names chapters "Iron Maiden", "Twisted Sister", "Grim Reaper", ect. [in the book Ghoul], it just has to be good.
__________________
We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark.

I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them,
I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period.



Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years
Crimson Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2009, 06:38 PM   #1421
Sheldonrs
Master Dwellar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 4,412
"Bergdorf Blonds" by Plum Sykes

It's actually pretty funny.
__________________
Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.
Sheldonrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2009, 06:56 PM   #1422
Chocolatl
Glutton for Gluttony
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,409
Still finishing up The Graveyard Book. It was delayed because I picked up Hanging Out with the Dream King this weekend, a book of interviews with Neil Gaiman and his collaborators through out his career.

One of my graduation gifts was a big ol' gift card to the bookstore, so this is the haul I brought home with me today. Some of it is for me, personally, and some of it will be for my future classroom.
Reading Lolita in Tehran -- Azar Nafisi
The Wiccan Year -- Judy Ann Nock
The Freedom Writers Diary -- The Freedom Writers with Erin Gruwell
My Sister's Keeper -- Jodi Picoult
Love, Stargirl -- Jerry Spinelli
A Mango-Shaped Space -- Wendy Moss
Howl's Moving Castle -- Diana Wynne Jones
Speak -- Laurie Halse Anderson

That oughta keep me busy.
Chocolatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2009, 09:47 PM   #1423
richlevy
King Of Wishful Thinking
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 6,669
Finished Men of the Otherworld by Kelly Armstrong. A really nice book on werewolves.

Finished Maelstrom, the third book of the Destroyermen series. Two WWII destroyers go through a rift into an alternate earth. The equipment and procedures seem very authentic.

Looking forward to reading Conspirator, the 10th book in the Foreigner series. I had to request it from my library. They did not order it even though they have the other nine.
__________________
Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE!
I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama
richlevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2009, 11:40 PM   #1424
monster
I hear them call the tide
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Perpetual Chaos
Posts: 30,852
I'm reading everything by Chris Crutcher. it's Teen stuff and boy-friendly. it's awesome, but tough going. his characters do not live happy fluffy lives. I loved it so much i went to his website to send a fan email (my second ever) and was gobsmacked to find that schools are banning his stuff! And..... they don't even seem to get to the content (which i guess could be controversial) -they're all hung up on the occasional swear words that crop up.....

http://www.chriscrutcher.com/
__________________
The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart
monster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 12:37 PM   #1425
wolf
lobber of scimitars
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phila Burbs
Posts: 20,774
Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto - Mark R. Levin

UG will like it, may think it doesn't go far enough.

The rest of you will think it's wacky or wrong, despite it being well researched and documented.
__________________
wolf eht htiw og

"Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island

High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis
wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
books


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:25 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.