ok to just shoot people now apparently

Flint · 08-27-2020, 07:32 PM

can no longer refer to possibility of a civil war in the future tense

monster · 08-27-2020, 07:55 PM

only if you're white. otherwise even the possibility you might have a gun is not ok

Clodfobble · 08-27-2020, 08:36 PM

To be fair, he's been arrested and charged with a half dozen crimes. Very curious to see if he's given more than a slap on the wrist.

monster · 08-27-2020, 08:47 PM

which one?

monster · 08-27-2020, 08:49 PM

The kid was only arrested after video and other public evidence was overwhelming. And he's a "kid" so..... the other one is still being paid, it seems....

Undertoad · 08-27-2020, 09:04 PM

26 people have been shot dead so far during protesting/rioting

Clodfobble · 08-27-2020, 09:05 PM

Oh, for sure the kid was only arrested because of overwhelming video evidence. Thing is, if they do throw him under the bus, the law-and-order AR-15 types might turn on the cops. Like, "we showed up to do your dirty work, and this is the thanks we get?" On the other hand, maybe they'll just blame activist judges.

tw · 08-27-2020, 09:21 PM

Guantanamo concentration camps. Secret torture chambers all over the world. When are gas chambers planned?

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-27-2020, 10:42 PM

Not that anyone's likely to trust tw with a gun -- but if he's truly as concerned about gas chambers, and I suppose ovens, as he professes, tw would arm himself (even if he has to buy secondhand because he cannot afford more) and get competent at putting shots into the 10-ring. No evidence of this has appeared.

A concentration camp where the inmates put on an average of fifteen pounds' weight is an interesting camp indeed. Maybe they were really concentrating.

Griff · 08-28-2020, 06:13 AM

Better fat than free? I've got a wall to sell you.

Griff · 08-28-2020, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

can no longer refer to possibility of a civil war in the future tense

In all seriousness, we all need to talk to people about how this could go if we don't leave our guns at home and stick to daylight peaceful protest.

footfootfoot · 08-28-2020, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

In all seriousness, we all need to talk to people about how this could go if we don't leave our guns at home and stick to daylight peaceful protest.

How it would go depends entirely on a) Who is in office delivering the spin, and b) Who owns the media delivering, cherry picking, and commenting on the delivered spin.

I honestly don't give dems a snowflake's chance in hell if it comes to a shooting war. They can't even manage an election campaign war. What makes them democrats is also what makes them unsuitable to battle, figurative or literal. They are too willing to see other's points of view and are mired in fact, ethics, and morality.

War and rules of engagement have always seemed contradictory; it's ok to kill but only if you do it this way? It's like following the Marquess of Queensberry Rules in a street fight.

Ibby · 08-28-2020, 08:11 AM

I very, very highly recommend the It Could Happen Here podcast from last year. conflict journalist Robert Evans lays out a really plausible (and so far eerily prescient) path towards a violent second civil war, and lays out steps that could be taken to help avoid it.

if it does come to a shooting war, it's likely to look less like the first civil war, with two clear sides with their own governments and territory, and a lot more like Syria, with many sides and factions vying for territory and security. it also won't be drawn along dem/rep lines - I can imagine a coalition of centrist Republicans and Democrats trying to hold the "center" politically (which is already the Biden campaign's strategy), but I can't imagine the Democrats organizing any legitimate resistance. More likely imo is organized left-wing (not liberal, leftist) groups organizing cities, or parts of cities, in "community self-defense" against the right-wing dominionist and fascist militias that have been prepping for exactly that opportunity. whether or not the military/ "government forces" get majorly involved is a big question, but I find it hard to imagine that the average soldier would be willing to fire on Americans.

Clodfobble · 08-28-2020, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibby

I find it hard to imagine that the average soldier would be willing to fire on Americans.

This is Mr. Clod's opinion as well, and it seems utterly bizarre to me. I don't find it hard to imagine AT ALL. Enforcers in every city are firing on Americans right now, just ones they've deemed destructive criminals. Yeah, they're not going to march into your suburban house and slaughter you on your couch--but if they think you're with "the other side?" Or if they think your house is secretly a resistance base and needs to be targeted? Soldiers will absolutely fire on people they no longer consider to be Americans.

tw · 08-28-2020, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

A concentration camp where the inmates put on an average of fifteen pounds' weight is an interesting camp indeed. Maybe they were really concentrating.

Just another way to torture someone. Feed then high sugar sweets. Then cost controls are also implemented.

Person who so needs a gun is the greatest threat to all other people. As clearly demonstrated three day ago in Wisconsin. A gun makes one, with least intelligence, feel more powerful and smarter. Ironically, that also describes most Trump supporters Explains why Trump supporters so often carry military assault weapons to Trump, KKK, and Nazi rallies.

08-27-2020, 07:32 PM	#1
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08-27-2020, 07:55 PM	#2
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	only if you're white. otherwise even the possibility you might have a gun is not ok __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-27-2020, 08:36 PM	#3
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	To be fair, he's been arrested and charged with a half dozen crimes. Very curious to see if he's given more than a slap on the wrist. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-27-2020, 08:47 PM	#4
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	which one? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-27-2020, 08:49 PM	#5
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	The kid was only arrested after video and other public evidence was overwhelming. And he's a "kid" so..... the other one is still being paid, it seems.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-27-2020, 09:04 PM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	26 people have been shot dead so far during protesting/rioting

08-27-2020, 09:05 PM	#7
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Oh, for sure the kid was only arrested because of overwhelming video evidence. Thing is, if they do throw him under the bus, the law-and-order AR-15 types might turn on the cops. Like, "we showed up to do your dirty work, and this is the thanks we get?" On the other hand, maybe they'll just blame activist judges. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-27-2020, 09:21 PM	#8
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Guantanamo concentration camps. Secret torture chambers all over the world. When are gas chambers planned?

08-27-2020, 10:42 PM	#9
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Not that anyone's likely to trust tw with a gun -- but if he's truly as concerned about gas chambers, and I suppose ovens, as he professes, tw would arm himself (even if he has to buy secondhand because he cannot afford more) and get competent at putting shots into the 10-ring. No evidence of this has appeared. A concentration camp where the inmates put on an average of fifteen pounds' weight is an interesting camp indeed. Maybe they were really concentrating. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-28-2020, 06:13 AM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Better fat than free? I've got a wall to sell you. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-28-2020, 08:11 AM	#13
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I very, very highly recommend the It Could Happen Here podcast from last year. conflict journalist Robert Evans lays out a really plausible (and so far eerily prescient) path towards a violent second civil war, and lays out steps that could be taken to help avoid it. if it does come to a shooting war, it's likely to look less like the first civil war, with two clear sides with their own governments and territory, and a lot more like Syria, with many sides and factions vying for territory and security. it also won't be drawn along dem/rep lines - I can imagine a coalition of centrist Republicans and Democrats trying to hold the "center" politically (which is already the Biden campaign's strategy), but I can't imagine the Democrats organizing any legitimate resistance. More likely imo is organized left-wing (not liberal, leftist) groups organizing cities, or parts of cities, in "community self-defense" against the right-wing dominionist and fascist militias that have been prepping for exactly that opportunity. whether or not the military/ "government forces" get majorly involved is a big question, but I find it hard to imagine that the average soldier would be willing to fire on Americans. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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