Mister McCain and Mister Graham...

henry quirk · 03-08-2013, 09:32 AM

...are, of course, right to take Mister Paul to task for his grandstanding.

The notion a government would ever kill a citizen on native soil is absurd.

There's not a stitch of evidence to support such fear mongering.

Really: can any one cite a single example of a government killing its own citizens?

That a government would kill citizens (with drones or guns or poisons, etc.) is as nonsensical as the suggestion a government would move to disarm a population through incremental gun controls.

Again: can any one cite a single example of government incrementally restricting firearms (with an eye toward a universal ban)?

Mister Rand must be made to understand: 'It can't happen here'.

henry quirk · 03-08-2013, 09:41 AM

...Mister Obama has made it clear as crystal (by way of the letter to Mister Rand) he does not believe himself empowered to kill Americans on American soil.

Any one suggesting Mr. Obama might contradict himself by way of legal/constitutional wrangling or 'interpretation' plainly needs an education (in the safeguards ensuring 'it can't happen here').

Spexxvet · 03-08-2013, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry quirk

The notion a government would ever kill a citizen on native soil is absurd.
can any one cite a single example of a government killing its own citizens?

Kent State. Ruby Ridge.

glatt · 03-08-2013, 01:37 PM

I think Henry wasn't being serious.

There were 6 million examples over in Nazi Germany.

henry quirk · 03-08-2013, 01:56 PM

Ya think?

classicman · 03-09-2013, 12:34 AM

Yeh, I know ... Civil war?

henry quirk · 03-09-2013, 09:28 AM

Unlikely.

War requires folks willing and capable of it.

The American majority has no taste or capacity for it, relying instead on a minority to get bloody.

classicman · 03-09-2013, 10:10 AM

No silly, we are far too Fat & Happy as a country for anything that would require that much motivation. I was referring to the one that already happened.
As you were.

ZenGum · 03-09-2013, 05:57 PM

And that is why I'm not presently worried about a US/China war. As long as I'm seeing tubby Chinese and tubby Americans, I'm pretty sure your nations won't throw that comfortable ease away for a decade of rationing and grief.

Now, North Korea on the other hand ...

IamSam · 03-09-2013, 10:45 PM

"friendly" fire
the "disappeared" in Argentina
the Killing Fields of Cambodia
the six wives of Henry VIII
Stalin's gulags
The Chinese Cultural Revolution
Syria

Am I getting warm yet?

sent on the run from Homeland Security and what appears to be some sort of aircraft overhead

03-08-2013, 09:32 AM	#1
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Mister McCain and Mister Graham... ...are, of course, right to take Mister Paul to task for his grandstanding. The notion a government would ever kill a citizen on native soil is absurd. There's not a stitch of evidence to support such fear mongering. Really: can any one cite a single example of a government killing its own citizens? That a government would kill citizens (with drones or guns or poisons, etc.) is as nonsensical as the suggestion a government would move to disarm a population through incremental gun controls. Again: can any one cite a single example of government incrementally restricting firearms (with an eye toward a universal ban)? Mister Rand must be made to understand: 'It can't happen here'.

03-08-2013, 09:41 AM	#2
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Also... ...Mister Obama has made it clear as crystal (by way of the letter to Mister Rand) he does not believe himself empowered to kill Americans on American soil. Any one suggesting Mr. Obama might contradict himself by way of legal/constitutional wrangling or 'interpretation' plainly needs an education (in the safeguards ensuring 'it can't happen here').

03-08-2013, 01:56 PM	#5
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"I think Henry wasn't being serious." Ya think?

03-09-2013, 12:34 AM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Yeh, I know ... Civil war? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-09-2013, 09:28 AM	#7
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Civil war? Unlikely. War requires folks willing and capable of it. The American majority has no taste or capacity for it, relying instead on a minority to get bloody.

03-08-2013, 01:37 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I think Henry wasn't being serious. There were 6 million examples over in Nazi Germany.

03-09-2013, 10:10 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	No silly, we are far too Fat & Happy as a country for anything that would require that much motivation. I was referring to the one that already happened. As you were. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-09-2013, 05:57 PM	#9
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	And that is why I'm not presently worried about a US/China war. As long as I'm seeing tubby Chinese and tubby Americans, I'm pretty sure your nations won't throw that comfortable ease away for a decade of rationing and grief. Now, North Korea on the other hand ... __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-09-2013, 10:45 PM	#10
IamSam Now living the life of a POW Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: The Lost Corners of Colorado Posts: 202	"friendly" fire the "disappeared" in Argentina the Killing Fields of Cambodia the six wives of Henry VIII Stalin's gulags The Chinese Cultural Revolution Syria Am I getting warm yet? sent on the run from Homeland Security and what appears to be some sort of aircraft overhead __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

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