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Old 05-11-2004, 12:30 PM   #1
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Only in Canada or California

Prison guards forbidden to wear protective gear

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Calgar...17/384816.html

By DOUG BEAZLEY, SUN MEDIA

EDMONTON -- Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners. "If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," said Tim Krause.
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Old 05-11-2004, 05:05 PM   #2
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Prison guards forbidden to wear protective gear

What idiot thought that one up?
So what signals are you sending without using the correct wear.

It's a Max security prison most of the prisoners are dangerous persons,or do the prisons in Canada only hold reasonable convicts who would'nt hurt a fly.
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Old 05-11-2004, 05:15 PM   #3
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:39 PM   #4
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Another example of the people making the rules are not the one suffering the consequences of them.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:58 PM   #5
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How about prohibiting private citizens from owning bulletproof vests?
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:12 AM   #6
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Even if they were wearing vests someone could stab/shoot them in the arm/leg/head! I reckon the only way to go is full head-to-toe steel reinforced protective armour. Or lose the guards, get robots to deal with the prisoners. Human contact is too dangerous. Shit! Did something move? Shoot it, dammit!
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:04 AM   #7
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Even if they were wearing vests someone could stab/shoot them in the arm/leg/head! I reckon the only way to go is full head-to-toe steel reinforced protective armour. Or lose the guards, get robots to deal with the prisoners. Human contact is too dangerous. Shit! Did something move? Shoot it, dammit!
Your point?
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You just made it.
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:32 AM   #9
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You just made it.
Ok, I'm as much a fan of being abstruse as the next guy, but give me something to work with.
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You have all the material you need. Now, assimilate it, converge it, understand it, and then retaliate without really thinking about it. Actually don't, I've just done it for you.
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:56 PM   #11
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How about prohibiting private citizens from owning bulletproof vests?
What? I've got to turn in my vests?
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Old 05-13-2004, 08:30 AM   #12
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*sigh*

Most wounds are to the torso, so the vest is a valid measure.

The very fact that they were put on in the first place means someone, somewhere was stabbed at a prison, thus validating, again, said protective device.

If the prisoners have their feelings hurt by someone wanting to protect themselves from a likely threat then that's just too bad.
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Old 05-13-2004, 08:32 AM   #13
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What? I've got to turn in my vests?
I found this to be very interesting.

Notice the name of the store...

http://store.yahoo.com/cbaker8702/6411.html
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Old 05-13-2004, 08:34 AM   #14
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Bullet proof vests for school uniforms?
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Old 05-13-2004, 08:37 AM   #15
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How about prohibiting private citizens from owning bulletproof vests?
I pulled this from Bullet Proof Me

Body Armor is a purely defensive item but, regardless, we are very sensitive to the possibility of vests being misused by criminals. By buying a vest from us, you certify that you are a law-abiding adult with no felony convictions (we do not sell to felons or minors, and it is against the law for a felon to possess Body Armor in California.) We cooperate with law enforcement to stop the use of vests by criminals. If you have any criminal purpose in mind (or resell your armor to a criminal) you do NOT want to have bought Body Armor from us! (See our Privacy Commitment)

We reserve the right to refuse to sell to anyone, in our sole discretion. By buying body armor you guarantee that you are not legally prohibited from owning firearms or body armor and also that you are not associated with any criminal group, in any way, and have only a lawful self-defense purpose for owning body armor.

Shipping Level III and IV armor plates outside the United States of America requires a U.S. State Department export permit. Level II-A, Level II and Level III-A Body Armor may require a Department of Commerce export license. It is the SOLE responsibility of the purchaser to ensure that all transactions conform to US and local Federal, State and Local Statutes, Codes, and Ordinances.
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