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yesman065 Second Chances 07-13-2007, 07:38 AM

yesman065 A few more. . . "Al Qaeda:... 07-13-2007, 07:45 AM

glatt I wonder how effective this... 07-13-2007, 07:56 AM

Undertoad 100%, I would expect. 07-13-2007, 08:05 AM

glatt I don't understand that. If... 07-13-2007, 08:18 AM

Happy Monkey Not quite. They didn't get... 07-13-2007, 08:36 AM

DanaC True. But then again, if they... 07-13-2007, 08:36 AM

Undertoad Yabbut Glatt, that's Western... 07-13-2007, 08:50 AM

glatt But they wanted to convert... 07-13-2007, 09:56 AM

skysidhe sick.........and guess who I... 07-13-2007, 10:56 AM

Urbane Guerrilla And the Democrats want to... 07-13-2007, 11:38 AM

glatt The Democrats want to stop... 07-13-2007, 11:43 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Glatt, their actions tell us... 07-13-2007, 11:50 AM

glatt This much of your post is... 07-13-2007, 12:05 PM

yesman065 It al depends on who you get... 07-13-2007, 02:29 PM

BigV Attention to detail is... 07-13-2007, 02:52 PM

yesman065 Yes, I think we will leave... 07-13-2007, 05:01 PM

glatt On the contrary, it is... 07-13-2007, 03:11 PM

Urbane Guerrilla How do you suppose these... 07-14-2007, 01:32 AM

glatt I don't have a crystal ball,... 07-14-2007, 10:48 AM

yesman065 Oh, I think it will be much... 07-14-2007, 11:54 AM

xoxoxoBruce Then it was posited wrongly.... 07-14-2007, 12:24 PM

DanaC Unlike the Republicants who... 07-13-2007, 11:52 AM

Griff [neo]All we need do is bomb... 07-13-2007, 11:59 AM

Urbane Guerrilla To their infinite credit, the... 07-13-2007, 11:58 AM

DanaC lol. 07-13-2007, 12:04 PM

Sundae I just can't believe it. ... 07-13-2007, 12:10 PM

yesman065 Sundae - I don't think they... 07-13-2007, 02:25 PM

piercehawkeye45 I think the reasons why they... 07-13-2007, 03:24 PM

xoxoxoBruce We are not the ones doing... 07-13-2007, 04:17 PM

Undertoad So let's play a few chess... 07-14-2007, 12:10 PM

Griff Too bad you guys learned that... 07-14-2007, 06:50 PM

TheMercenary But she still has not taken... 07-16-2007, 12:01 PM

yesman065 Gee, I'll bite - US the U.S 07-14-2007, 12:14 PM

piercehawkeye45 If we want to win the war in... 07-14-2007, 04:21 PM

xoxoxoBruce Let me clarify, this is not... 07-14-2007, 10:34 PM

Undertoad Nobody gets away, my friend,... 07-14-2007, 08:04 PM

Guest People with a brain? 07-14-2007, 09:55 PM

Guest I suggest we LEAVE! Without... 07-15-2007, 12:54 AM

piercehawkeye45 I have been leaving for a... 07-15-2007, 07:29 AM

yesman065 Not to worry - if we withdraw... 07-15-2007, 10:51 AM

xoxoxoBruce I think the last four years... 07-15-2007, 02:28 PM

TheMercenary They don't have many chances... 07-16-2007, 12:06 PM

piercehawkeye45 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07... 07-16-2007, 05:48 PM

xoxoxoBruce Our best hope is the word... 07-16-2007, 05:56 PM

TheMercenary I don't believe the Saudi... 07-16-2007, 06:58 PM

xoxoxoBruce There was something on the... 07-16-2007, 07:07 PM

TheMercenary I have no doubt about that.... 07-16-2007, 07:20 PM

piercehawkeye45 Yet, the vast majority of... 07-16-2007, 07:21 PM

TheMercenary Really? Got something to back... 07-16-2007, 07:22 PM

piercehawkeye45 Yes, I have posted this... 07-16-2007, 07:30 PM

yesman065 And perhaps that the places... 07-16-2007, 06:42 PM

xoxoxoBruce They are still going to hate... 07-16-2007, 06:51 PM

DanaC That's entirely possible.... 07-16-2007, 07:12 PM

xoxoxoBruce Could be... I have a feeling... 07-16-2007, 07:25 PM

TheMercenary http://www.washingtonpost.com/... 07-16-2007, 07:26 PM

TheMercenary These days Rami gets most of... 07-16-2007, 07:27 PM

TheMercenary Pierce, this article supports... 07-16-2007, 07:28 PM

TheMercenary http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new... 07-16-2007, 07:35 PM

piercehawkeye45 Do you even read my source... 07-16-2007, 07:40 PM

TheMercenary Can't get past the first page... 07-16-2007, 07:43 PM

piercehawkeye45 This is not a left-winged... 07-16-2007, 07:51 PM

TheMercenary Evan Kohlmann's comments do... 07-16-2007, 07:58 PM

piercehawkeye45 They are both overblowing the... 07-16-2007, 08:17 PM

TheMercenary The liberal bias in the media... 07-16-2007, 08:22 PM

piercehawkeye45 Once again, you fail to... 07-16-2007, 08:29 PM

TheMercenary Once again, you fail to... 07-16-2007, 08:49 PM

piercehawkeye45 My source does back up that... 07-16-2007, 09:12 PM

TheMercenary Your examples are... 07-16-2007, 09:17 PM

piercehawkeye45 "Lets take a hypothetical... 07-16-2007, 09:22 PM

TheMercenary Another interesting view of... 07-16-2007, 09:25 PM

piercehawkeye45 First, this is the propaganda... 07-17-2007, 01:17 AM

TheMercenary I believe you have read to... 07-17-2007, 10:27 AM

yesman065 Maybe we should give him a... 07-16-2007, 09:51 PM

Urbane Guerrilla How about because Iran is... 07-17-2007, 01:51 AM

Guest It's not our place. 07-17-2007, 02:11 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Now you already know I can't... 07-17-2007, 02:21 AM

xoxoxoBruce Quack. 07-17-2007, 08:28 AM

piercehawkeye45 How is Iran not like a... 07-17-2007, 05:37 AM

yesman065 Or thats what he wants us to... 07-17-2007, 10:38 AM

xoxoxoBruce Saudis much good... give heap... 07-17-2007, 10:46 AM

yesman065 Getting back to the beginning... 07-17-2007, 02:25 PM

xoxoxoBruce I know where you got that... 07-17-2007, 06:17 PM

Undertoad Individual Saudi morons will... 07-17-2007, 03:40 PM

yesman065 Thanks xoB - I copied it to... 07-17-2007, 10:28 PM

Urbane Guerrilla There never was a fascist... 07-18-2007, 12:14 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Pierce, find out how Iran is... 07-18-2007, 12:15 AM

piercehawkeye45 UG, find me a democracy or... 07-18-2007, 07:37 AM

DanaC That made me laugh out loud. 07-18-2007, 05:31 AM

TheMercenary Iran is far from democratic.... 07-18-2007, 08:53 AM

Urbane Guerrilla The United States and the... 07-19-2007, 01:09 AM

DanaC I'm a cynic, I say 'The... 07-19-2007, 05:07 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Sounds to me like you're in... 07-23-2007, 04:07 AM

yesman065 Al-Qaeda faces rebellion from... 07-22-2007, 09:00 PM

piercehawkeye45 Hopefully, if this sort of... 07-23-2007, 07:09 AM

DanaC You are mistaking 'office'... 07-23-2007, 06:51 AM

yesman065 I am hoping and praying that... 07-23-2007, 07:52 AM

piercehawkeye45 CNN has had two stories on it... 07-23-2007, 08:09 AM

yesman065 Really?? Let me know where -... 07-23-2007, 08:42 AM

TheMercenary http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t... 07-23-2007, 09:27 AM

tw The logic works if Al Qaeda... 07-23-2007, 12:13 PM

yesman065 Uh isn't that the enemy of my... 07-23-2007, 12:19 PM

yesman065 Thanks Merc, but thats the... 07-23-2007, 12:12 PM

TheMercenary Sorry about that. :redface: 07-23-2007, 12:16 PM

piercehawkeye45 Yesman - here is the link ... 07-23-2007, 06:01 PM

yesman065 Thank you. 07-23-2007, 07:48 PM

Urbane Guerrilla Nobody should mistake Iran... 07-24-2007, 03:16 AM

Griff I don't think anyone is... 07-24-2007, 05:58 AM

yesman065 Excerpt from an interview... 07-28-2007, 03:52 PM

glatt I hope Yon's right. 07-30-2007, 09:57 AM

yesman065 I posted this in another... 07-30-2007, 10:09 AM

xoxoxoBruce I'm sure the grunts were... 07-30-2007, 01:06 PM

glatt I agree with alll of that,... 07-30-2007, 01:40 PM

xoxoxoBruce You're right in there should... 07-30-2007, 02:10 PM

Flint FACT: 85% of mental midgets... 07-30-2007, 02:18 PM

yesman065 Its not your fault Flint, 85%... 07-30-2007, 02:45 PM

piercehawkeye45 What is considered winning... 07-30-2007, 06:35 PM

Griff Removing top management... 07-30-2007, 08:29 PM

tw Which is what happened when... 07-31-2007, 01:56 AM

xoxoxoBruce Good point and worth... 07-31-2007, 05:41 AM

Guest All the oil & natural gas in... 07-31-2007, 03:53 AM

Aliantha The middle east is like a... 07-30-2007, 07:36 PM

yesman065 :rotflol: 07-30-2007, 08:46 PM

yesman065 Here is another guy that had... 07-31-2007, 05:43 PM

xoxoxoBruce Good link, thanks. 07-31-2007, 10:59 PM

TheMercenary http://www.npr.org/templates/s... 08-01-2007, 09:56 AM

piercehawkeye45 Good article and, once again,... 08-07-2007, 03:12 PM

piercehawkeye45 The next day, dozens more die... 08-07-2007, 03:12 PM

yesman065 Hopefully soon ... Bread... 08-08-2007, 09:25 AM

Urbane Guerrilla And a bit more,... 08-11-2007, 12:33 AM

yesman065 The Turning Tide In Iraq... 08-19-2007, 09:24 PM

yesman065 Al-Qaeda faces rebellion from... 08-21-2007, 11:44 PM

piercehawkeye45 See what happens when you get... 08-21-2007, 11:54 PM

yesman065 The mainstream media and the... 08-21-2007, 11:59 PM

Urbane Guerrilla That's why I haven't voted... 08-22-2007, 04:45 AM

piercehawkeye45 Well I guess that is logical. 08-22-2007, 05:25 AM

Urbane Guerrilla I seek to understand and... 08-24-2007, 09:34 PM

Griff Your mistake is in believing... 08-25-2007, 07:04 AM

Griff This is a really weird thing... 08-23-2007, 06:19 AM

DanaC Out of interest Yesman: what... 08-22-2007, 05:10 AM

yesman065 The media that reaches the... 08-22-2007, 07:14 AM

tw From ABC News of 22 Aug 2007:... 08-22-2007, 11:38 PM

yesman065 Have you answered the... 08-22-2007, 11:46 PM

piercehawkeye45 Ugh, this is why I hate both... 08-23-2007, 07:59 AM

tw Both did not go to jail due... 08-23-2007, 03:26 PM

piercehawkeye45 Yes, but to pull out because... 08-23-2007, 07:03 PM

xoxoxoBruce Yon, on Anbar, talks... 08-23-2007, 11:38 PM

tw Yon forgot one important... 08-25-2007, 12:23 PM

xoxoxoBruce Not all returning Generals... 08-25-2007, 03:38 PM

piercehawkeye45 More realistic eitherway. 08-24-2007, 07:37 AM

DanaC That is a great line. 08-25-2007, 07:07 AM

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07-13-2007, 12:05 PM

#11

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

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The Democrats have no, repeat no, strategy to win this. They never had one

This much of your post is true. The rest is false.

When I say the Democrats want to stop losing, what I mean is that the war is already lost, and pulling out now (or at least setting a timetable to pull out) is simply having the guts to admit what is plain for all to see. It's over, and we lost. It's time to stop investing in a losing proposition. Cut our losses. Let bygones be bygones.

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