We've given bin Laden what he wanted...

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

That's a streeeeetch. So you feel our government should not take out al-Awlaki, a known and proven enemy terrorist, as Merc suggested?

I'm saying that in this case, merc saying that al-Awlaki should be killed for transgressions against his values (saying that the cartoonist should be killed) is no better than al-Awlaki saying that the cartoonist should be killed for transgressions against his values(the cartoonist making fun of Mohammed).

His being a "known and proven terrorist" does not enter into my point.

Do you think your values are better than his values?

[Lamplighter]

For any of you that think we have not yet gone over the top on fighting terrorism...

Fox 12 Oregon
12:36pm | September 18, 2010

Full-Body Scanners Coming To PDX

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Full-body scanners are expected to arrive at Portland International Airport next year.
The machines scan below clothing for threatening or non-metallic devices, Department of Homeland Security officials said Friday.
Although the scanners have been criticized for invading privacy, the Transportation Security Administration said there's a privacy filter to blur all images and the pictures are deleted once viewed.

Coming soon to an airport near you...

Other airports getting the scanners next year include Memphis and Newark.

UBL is laughing (at us) all the way to the airport.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I'm saying that in this case, merc saying that al-Awlaki should be killed for transgressions against his values (saying that the cartoonist should be killed) is no better than al-Awlaki saying that the cartoonist should be killed for transgressions against his values(the cartoonist making fun of Mohammed).

His being a "known and proven terrorist" does not enter into my point.

Do you think your values are better than his values?

It's got nothing to do with values, it's about reality... serious threats, death threats, to our country and it's citizens. In the OP, I stated we should send that clown a Hellfire.
That's why I said, your judgment is clouded because Merc said it, when he repeated the same.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's got nothing to do with values, it's about reality... serious threats, death threats, to our country and it's citizens. In the OP, I stated we should send that clown a Hellfire.

And brimstone. Since its all about religion, attack with both hellfire and brimstone. Hellfire without brimstone is like Saddam without WMDs; Palin without Fox News; Urbane Guerrilla with humor; or war without first inventing an enemy. These are the new realities.

God says we must kill. I mean, kill. Kill. I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, kill, kill, kill. And the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me, and said , "You're our preacher."

Or we could have ignored religious hatred completely and gone after real enemies such as bin Laden. Using real soldiers; not rhetoric.

[xoxoxoBruce]

al-Awlaki is not about religion, he's about terrorism and murder.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

al-Awlaki is not about religion, he's about terrorism and murder.

He's a front man. A spokesman. He simply does what Limabaugh and Beck are doing. He does what Rev Sharpton once did to become so notable. But Sharpton does not openly promote hate. Those others promote hate of Islam or hate of the preverbal 'enemies of Islam'. What is the difference between the teachings of al-Awlaki and Urbane Guerilla? They both speak hate of the other.

So which one should be hit by hellfire and which one by brimstone?

Meanwhlle, bin Laden still runs free. So many who hype hate of a Manhattan mosque or Islamofacism also refused to ask a damning question. When do we go after bin Laden? Now there is someone deserving of both hellfire AND brimstone.

If al-Awlaki deserves hellfire, then Beck and Limbaugh deserve brimstone. They all promote hate - but do not act on it.

[xoxoxoBruce]

al-Awlaki is no more a front man than bin Laden is. The Radical Islamic terrorists are not a unified monster, it's a Hydra, and al-Awlaki is one of it's heads.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

al-Awlaki is no more a front man than bin Laden is. The Radical Islamic terrorists are not a unified monster, it's a Hydra, and al-Awlaki is one of it's heads.

How many deadly operations did al-Awlaki mastermind? None. He promotes death same as Limbaugh and Beck.

Either all or none are 'evil' for promoting same things - hate and death. Meanwhile bin Laden masterminded multiple deadly operations. And was allowed by George Jr's administration to flee free.

How many US government organizations were established only to get one man. None for al-Awlaki. Alec Station was created by Clinton in 1994 only to get bin Laden because he was that dangerous even back then - when a president was listening to field operatives and facts. So different was the threat that bin Laden should not even be discussed in a thread about al-Awlaki, Limbaugh, Beck, and other disciples of hate.

Let's not avoid the issue. Do we brimstone al-Awlaki and hellfire Limbaugh? Or other way around? I keep asking for actionable solutions. When do I get recommendations?