We've given bin Laden what he wanted...

sexobon · 09-15-2010, 04:49 PM

OTOH if we had begun increasing security measures incrementally 10 years prior to 2001 we would have gradually became accustomed to them, we may not have experienced the loss in 2001, we may not have gone to war abroad, and we'd probably be patting ourselves on the back for our proactive savvy while other countries suffered loss.

That; however, is not America. It would have been political suicide for leaders at the time to have funded the security measures we now have in place. We are a reactionary country: that's our system for prioritizing ways and means as it gives us more freedoms between incidents. After an incident occurs, we're subject to the manifestations of financial and culture shock. Still, we wouldn't have it any other way.

Ted Koppel has excellent hindsight; but, offers no new direction ... only reflection. He presents with a late-in-life attitude that I doubt is shared by parents with young children when they have to board an aircraft, are approached by anyone with concealed identity; or, when a fight is brought to the homeland and we don't take it somewhere (anywhere) else.

jinx · 09-15-2010, 05:01 PM

This is just my experience, but even as a child (1980's), when I flew I had to pass thru metal detectors and security checkpoints. The only difference I experienced post 9/11 was having to take off my shoes before I went thru and not being able to carry on any liquids (except for the bottle of water in the bag with my hamburger I bought in the terminal, but I guess that doesnt count). Oh, and not being able to check bags at the curb.
Had to go thru metal detectors and security checks to get in the courthouse before 9/11 too.

HungLikeJesus · 09-15-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

This is just my experience, but even as a child (1980's), when I flew I had to pass thru metal detectors and security checkpoints. The only difference I experienced post 9/11 was having to take off my shoes before I went thru and not being able to carry on any liquids (except for the bottle of water in the bag with my hamburger I bought in the terminal, but I guess that doesnt count). Oh, and not being able to check bags at the curb.
Had to go thru metal detectors and security checks to get in the courthouse before 9/11 too.

In about 1997 my wife flew back from Japan carrying a full size Samurai sword. She sure couldn't do that now.

09-15-2010, 05:01 PM	#2
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	This is just my experience, but even as a child (1980's), when I flew I had to pass thru metal detectors and security checkpoints. The only difference I experienced post 9/11 was having to take off my shoes before I went thru and not being able to carry on any liquids (except for the bottle of water in the bag with my hamburger I bought in the terminal, but I guess that doesnt count). Oh, and not being able to check bags at the curb. Had to go thru metal detectors and security checks to get in the courthouse before 9/11 too. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

09-15-2010, 04:49 PM	#1
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	OTOH if we had begun increasing security measures incrementally 10 years prior to 2001 we would have gradually became accustomed to them, we may not have experienced the loss in 2001, we may not have gone to war abroad, and we'd probably be patting ourselves on the back for our proactive savvy while other countries suffered loss. That; however, is not America. It would have been political suicide for leaders at the time to have funded the security measures we now have in place. We are a reactionary country: that's our system for prioritizing ways and means as it gives us more freedoms between incidents. After an incident occurs, we're subject to the manifestations of financial and culture shock. Still, we wouldn't have it any other way. Ted Koppel has excellent hindsight; but, offers no new direction ... only reflection. He presents with a late-in-life attitude that I doubt is shared by parents with young children when they have to board an aircraft, are approached by anyone with concealed identity; or, when a fight is brought to the homeland and we don't take it somewhere (anywhere) else.

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