Afghanistan

[Lamplighter]

Well, I see the White House now suddenly has gained credibility.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Well, I see the White House now suddenly has gained credibility.

Really? How so?

[Lamplighter]

Didn't you just source them as the true quote ?

(P.J. Crowley: Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs)

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Didn't you just source them as the true quote ?

(P.J. Crowley: Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs)

Oh, I get it. No they lack credibility. Point taken. But on the same note the ability of the liberal media to cherry pick the last words of a man who does not know he is about to die are quite different from those of a dying man.

[Lamplighter]

Peace

[Lamplighter]

The Wall Street Journal is not on my reading list.
When I post links, it's usually to present the "other"
(conservative) side of an issue.

This time I believe the article below deserves reading by all
who are interested in the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

After all, 500+ US troops died there in 2010, and 5,000 were wounded.
Between $100-$125 billion is being spent there each year,
and political and strategic decisions are being made now.

Wall Street Journal
BY RICHARD N. HAASS
Dec 20, 2010

The Obama administration has completed its third review
in two years of U.S. policy toward Afghanistan and Pakistan.
It argues the current approach is making progress, with success defined
as building up Afghan national army and police forces until they can hold their own
against a Taliban that is being weakened by ongoing combat.
Some officials also believe that several more years of military pressure
will persuade many Taliban fighters to switch sides rather than fight.

There are good reasons to be skeptical...<snip>

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

... Wall Street Journal
BY RICHARD N. HAASS
Dec 20, 2010

They must be referring to those Taliban T-shirts that say "I'd rather fight than switch."

[Lamplighter]

Here we go again... Afghanistan is sounding a lot like Irag

The leaders do not support the US military
Biden wants drones, Petreus wants troops, Karsi wants $
Obama does what Petreus wants and follows a "not on my watch" strategy
by setting goals well after the 2012 election

To continue an un-winnable war is leading to a world-view defeat for the US

The Washington Post
Biden makes unannounced visit to Afghanistan
By Joshua Partlow
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, January 10, 2011; 10:37 AM

Biden's unannounced visit brings him to the Afghan capital at a time of uncertainty in the war.
Military commanders claim progress against the Taliban in the areas where they've concentrated U.S. troops,
particularly in the southern Afghan provinces of Kandahar and Helmand.
And President Obama last month called the war effort "on track."

But the insurgency remains potent in wide swaths of the country.
The Afghan government has strongly opposed parts of the U.S.
military strategy and not yet addressed its own problems with corruption.
Insurgent leaders, meanwhile, operate safely from sanctuaries in Pakistan.

Obama has also moved away from the deadline he set of July 2011 for those troops to begin pulling out. <snip>

Afghan officials meanwhile continue to push for more authority
over how the war is fought and how billions of dollars of foreign aid is spent.
Karzai supports a less intrusive U.S. military presence in Afghanistan, and has pushed
to curtail inflammatory Special Operations forces night raids and reduce civilian casualties.
He also wants his country to benefit from development projects and not
just serve as a battlefield against terrorism.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

... Some officials also believe that several more years of military pressure will persuade many Taliban fighters to switch sides rather than fight.
There are good reasons to be skeptical ...

This was the problem Holbrooke identified and was so desperately trying to avoid. Just another reason why his death was such a major American defeat. He addressed realties that made Karzai, Generals, and other regional power brokers angry. Because, to some degree, they were all complicit in this problem. And because Holbrooke clearly saw Deja Vue Nam.

Reasons why America was defeated in Nam stem from factors obvious by 1963. That includes a most corrupt government. An army fighting only for money; not for the government or country. A people who regarded the government a greater threat than the insurgents. And a people who understand, "Fool me three times; shame on you. Fool me four times; shame on me."

We all know George Jr and his staff repeatedly said, "America does not do nation building." When he said that is when America may have been defeated in Afghanistan. A perfect example defined even by Sze Tsu on how to be defeated. We may just not yet know it.

We were defeated in Nam in 1963. Most Americans never learned this until 1972. Afghanistan may be Deja Vue Nam.

There may also be another problem. The military may have a different strategic objective from one necessary to have a victory. This was how Westmoreland also guaranteed an American defeat in Nam. This 'strategic' problem is not clear - if it exists at all. It may be why American generals were at odds with Holbrooke. They may be too focused on tactical objectives; do not see the strategic ones (which was a Westmoreland mistake).

[TheMercenary]

Time to kill off Rolling Stone magazine. What pieces of shit.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/2...l-teams-is-bs/

[Griff]

Rolling Stone has been showing up at my house due to some promotional nonsense. I don't know the background on this but the mag, it is crap.

[glatt]

Is it addressed to Edwin Tapia? Because that's the name on our Spin magazine we never ordered. Thanks again, Edwin, wherever you are.

[anonymous]

Afghanistan is a country.

[anonymous]

ok, That's kind of funny.

Maybe, I would have added how I had worked with someone from India once and talked about the tea.

[TheMercenary]

Afghan insurgents hang 8-year-old boy

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...3a946d861c51db