The Black Dog - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 12-07-2015, 01:43 AM

That's cool, if a network works for you.

Aliantha · 12-07-2015, 01:56 AM

Well, there are a few good friends I can talk to, but really it doesn't help that much. Yeah, it's nice when someone listens, but in the end I'm the one who has to deal with it all. The only one with answers is me really. I know what I need to do. I just need to flip that switch in my head, but there's a part of me that kind of likes feeling sad or something. It's like a drug. It's hard to fight. I quit smoking and other things in my life. I'm sure I can quit this too.

Griff · 12-07-2015, 06:08 AM

Chin up, you've been through the wringer.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-07-2015, 08:47 AM

Have you tried a ménage à trois in public during daylight?

lumberjim · 12-07-2015, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

there's a part of me that kind of likes feeling sad or something. It's like a drug. It's hard to fight..

It's impossible to fight. That's the Pain Body. It's NOT a part of YOU. It is it's own entity and It want's to survive.

It wants to, but the only way it can is if you feed it. It is not you. You are not your thoughts. You are the thinker. Separate yourself from that feeling when you notice it, and remind yourself that you are safe and sound, and that, in THIS MOMENT, you are OK. Nothing is lacking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eckhart Tolle

Once the pain body has taken you over, you want more pain. You become a victim or a perpetrator. You want to inflict pain, or you want to suffer pain, or both. There isn't really much difference between the two. You are not conscious of this, of course, and will vehemently claim that you do not want pain. But look closely and you will that your thinking and behavior are designed to keep the pain going, for yourself and others.

Aliantha · 12-07-2015, 05:40 PM

Thanks Jim.

lumberjim · 12-07-2015, 11:46 PM

Just hoping that helps you some. The book is called The Power of Now. I'm sure you're all sick of me bringing it up, but it's the most useful thing I've ever read.

Aliantha · 12-08-2015, 02:56 AM

I had a book called Awareness by Anthony DeMello. It was the same for me. I found it really uplifting and thought provoking. I loaned it to someone who didn't return it. I can't remember who it was and it's something I need to fix. I think I might go buy another copy if I can find it anywhere.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-08-2015, 11:25 AM

PM me your address and I'll have it delivered.
http://www.amazon.com/Awareness-The-.../dp/0385249373

Aliantha · 12-08-2015, 08:48 PM

That's very kind Bruce. x I'll sort it out though. It's only a small paperback, so much cheaper for me to have a look in the bookstore and buy it here.

DanaC · 12-10-2015, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

It's impossible to fight. That's the Pain Body. It's NOT a part of YOU. It is it's own entity and It want's to survive.

It wants to, but the only way it can is if you feed it. It is not you. You are not your thoughts. You are the thinker. Separate yourself from that feeling when you notice it, and remind yourself that you are safe and sound, and that, in THIS MOMENT, you are OK. Nothing is lacking.

Wow. That really resonates. I have totally been there.

infinite monkey · 12-10-2015, 09:40 AM

So I went to the library yesterday. Signed up for next year's health insurance. It's going to cost way more than I think I can afford, but what the government thinks I can afford isn't exactly the same thing. If I quit one of my jobs it would be free. But then there's less money. I don't know what's more cost-effective but I suspect it would be to quit a job. Not happening.

So this thread has been on my mind, the way my thoughts take over. I went to look for that Power of Now book. Online card catalog said 'available.' But it wasn't there where it was supposed to be. Looked all over the surrounding shelves. Nope. I guess someone who would rather steal than just get a library card. Or it was just misplaced. But the stealing was where my thoughts went. Huh. Jaded, I am. You might be too if you dealt with some of the stuff I saw in Higher Ed and what I see now in Public Defender's office. I fight that, try to keep some of the ideals I had when I was younger. But sometimes I'm too tired to fight it.

But anyway, I'll keep an eye out for it because it sounds like a good read.

And it's comforting to know others go through this too. Not that I want others to go through it, it just makes me feel less freakish. More human. So, thanks for the thread.

lumberjim · 12-10-2015, 09:51 AM

I've got two copies coming from amazon today. PM me your address..

until then click here for a pdf

lumberjim · 12-10-2015, 09:52 AM

I have this on audiobook, and I've listened to it 4 times or more.... and each time, some different part stands out to me. I think I need to read it again, just to remind myself to stay present.

glatt · 12-10-2015, 09:53 AM

From over here, I can tell you that you seem 100% human and 0% freak.

12-07-2015, 01:43 AM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's cool, if a network works for you. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-07-2015, 01:56 AM	#17
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well, there are a few good friends I can talk to, but really it doesn't help that much. Yeah, it's nice when someone listens, but in the end I'm the one who has to deal with it all. The only one with answers is me really. I know what I need to do. I just need to flip that switch in my head, but there's a part of me that kind of likes feeling sad or something. It's like a drug. It's hard to fight. I quit smoking and other things in my life. I'm sure I can quit this too. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-07-2015, 06:08 AM	#18
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Chin up, you've been through the wringer. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-07-2015, 08:47 AM	#19
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Have you tried a ménage à trois in public during daylight? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-07-2015, 05:40 PM	#21
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Thanks Jim. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-07-2015, 11:46 PM	#22
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Just hoping that helps you some. The book is called The Power of Now. I'm sure you're all sick of me bringing it up, but it's the most useful thing I've ever read. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-08-2015, 02:56 AM	#23
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I had a book called Awareness by Anthony DeMello. It was the same for me. I found it really uplifting and thought provoking. I loaned it to someone who didn't return it. I can't remember who it was and it's something I need to fix. I think I might go buy another copy if I can find it anywhere. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-08-2015, 11:25 AM	#24
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	PM me your address and I'll have it delivered. http://www.amazon.com/Awareness-The-.../dp/0385249373 __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-08-2015, 08:48 PM	#25
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	That's very kind Bruce. x I'll sort it out though. It's only a small paperback, so much cheaper for me to have a look in the bookstore and buy it here. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-10-2015, 09:40 AM	#27
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	So I went to the library yesterday. Signed up for next year's health insurance. It's going to cost way more than I think I can afford, but what the government thinks I can afford isn't exactly the same thing. If I quit one of my jobs it would be free. But then there's less money. I don't know what's more cost-effective but I suspect it would be to quit a job. Not happening. So this thread has been on my mind, the way my thoughts take over. I went to look for that Power of Now book. Online card catalog said 'available.' But it wasn't there where it was supposed to be. Looked all over the surrounding shelves. Nope. I guess someone who would rather steal than just get a library card. Or it was just misplaced. But the stealing was where my thoughts went. Huh. Jaded, I am. You might be too if you dealt with some of the stuff I saw in Higher Ed and what I see now in Public Defender's office. I fight that, try to keep some of the ideals I had when I was younger. But sometimes I'm too tired to fight it. But anyway, I'll keep an eye out for it because it sounds like a good read. And it's comforting to know others go through this too. Not that I want others to go through it, it just makes me feel less freakish. More human. So, thanks for the thread.

12-10-2015, 09:51 AM	#28
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I've got two copies coming from amazon today. PM me your address.. until then click here for a pdf __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-10-2015, 09:52 AM	#29
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I have this on audiobook, and I've listened to it 4 times or more.... and each time, some different part stands out to me. I think I need to read it again, just to remind myself to stay present. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-10-2015, 09:53 AM	#30
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	From over here, I can tell you that you seem 100% human and 0% freak.

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