Civil War

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

People are leaving NYC

The influx of people into Vermont is, as usual, causing the typical problems: Prices for land and real estate skyrocket where locals can't afford the prices, Vermont values and mores are diluted and overshadowed by NYC values and mores making it less Vermonty and more Westchestery. (rude, arrogant, entitled, loud, self-centered, jay-walking and not yielding in traffic) Causing friction in communities where neighbors begin resenting neighbors who harbor new-comers.

Originally Posted by Griff

We've been collecting red New Yorkers and Jersey folk here ever since 9/11. Blue New Yorkers appear to be moving to Northern New York and to Vermont. /heresay

My neighborhood is an odd mix of red and blue. Some of the red people are seemingly intelligent, one of them is a science teacher with an LGBTQ daughter and a military vet son, it's surprising to me that he supports Trump who is anti science, anti LGBTQ, and anti military.



A couple of the nicest folks I know around here, who are inexplicably red, did not put up their usual political signs this year-something very out of character- I'm assuming that after the last four years supporting trump became a bridge too far.


I've been listening to the podcast recommended by Ibby, "It Could Happen Here" Very interesting ideas about various ways in which the next civil war will play out. I don't have time at the moment to summarize, but I'd agree they are worth listening to.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Some of the red people are seemingly intelligent, one of them is a science teacher with an LGBTQ daughter and a military vet son, it's surprising to me that he supports Trump who is anti science, anti LGBTQ, and anti military.

Three errors of fact in a single clause. Is that some kind of personal best, foot?

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

A couple of the nicest folks I know around here, who are inexplicably red, did not put up their usual political signs this year-something very out of character- I'm assuming that after the last four years supporting Trump became a bridge too far.

There is nothing inexplicable about it: they like prosperity and the general welfare -- which means no restraint of trade. The Trump Administration has done nothing but remove the dead hand of overregulation, which somebody superstitiously thought should be kept in place, and enhanced a worldwide competitiveness (even in the face of other nations' non-level playing fields) to the effect of cratering unemployment among every identifiable population group -- all the minorities prospered, all the majorities prospered. No rights either civil or human were abrogated, as was loudly and for years incessantly claimed by the prejudiced hemipygians who wanted that abominable Mistress of Corruption.


Buuuut... you don't seem to believe you're part of the economy. You really ought to abandon that kind of thinking -- the real demands it.

Trump didn't get my vote -- the first time. Then he started doing all these libertarian things, most directly in reducing the footprint of the state.

This action has made xoxoxoBruce gibber. Guess he isn't in the economy either. Certainly, no businessman.