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Old 11-03-2004, 11:52 AM   #61
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Has everybody vented their drama yet?

I suppose that all of you thought that if Kerry won that Osama would have sent another video tape offering peace and friendship throughout the world, the sky would be bluer than blue (in honor of the democratic victory) and everybody would find a nice, shiny, new hybrid card in the driveway as a thank you gift for being such a good electorate.

It's the presidency. We do this every four years. The people chose. It's over. The country has survived this for the last 228 years. With the exception of a little uprising that got surprised in the mid-19th century, we've been revolution free, unlike MOST OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

Let it go, and get on with your lives.

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Old 11-03-2004, 11:55 AM   #62
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I'm not leaving--I'm getting dual citizenship so when I travel to the UK I won't be shot!---Oh, am leaving for England, Ireland and Wales June 12, 2005 with some kids from Wilmington college (southwest Ohio) "Origins of Religions" tour. I'll bet I'm not the only "canadian" in the bunch, eh?
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:57 AM   #63
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Has everybody vented their drama yet?
Not quite.

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Let it go, and get on with your lives.

Thank you.
Easy for you to say. You're new tagline says it all. "My guy won." Well, your guy winning will make it just that much more difficult for me to get on with my life, and I'm not alone. There are many, many more Americans like me - decent people who just are down on their luck, and the Bush/Republican domestic policy is to merely discard us. I hope you're prepared to be personally accountable for the outcomes of the next 4 years since "your guy won."
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:58 AM   #64
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Has everybody vented their drama yet?
I haven't even started.

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I suppose that all of you thought that if Kerry won that Osama would have sent another video tape offering peace and friendship throughout the world, the sky would be bluer than blue (in honor of the democratic victory) and everybody would find a nice, shiny, new hybrid card in the driveway as a thank you gift for being such a good electorate.
Hardly. I just hoped for something different than we've had. Maybe some progress.

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It's the presidency. We do this every four years. The people chose. It's over. The country has survived this for the last 228 years. With the exception of a little uprising that got surprised in the mid-19th century, we've been revolution free, unlike MOST OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.
I think it's interesting you consider the civil war a "little uprising".

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Let it go, and get on with your lives.

Thank you.
I completely and fully plan on it. You're welcome.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:00 PM   #65
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It wasn't people that were in the majority who started this experiment.
But it was people who had access to roughly the same level of weapon technology as their opposition. Joe Average is just SLIGHTLY outgunned when compared to our armed forces and law enforcement, and that's leaving out the heavy stuff.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:00 PM   #66
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Has everybody vented their drama yet?

I suppose that all of you thought that if Kerry won that Osama would have sent another video tape offering peace and friendship throughout the world, the sky would be bluer than blue (in honor of the democratic victory) and everybody would find a nice, shiny, new hybrid card in the driveway as a thank you gift for being such a good electorate.

It's the presidency. We do this every four years. The people chose. It's over. The country has survived this for the last 228 years. With the exception of a little uprising that got surprised in the mid-19th century, we've been revolution free, unlike MOST OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

Let it go, and get on with your lives.

Thank you.
If you voted for Bush, then your guy won. So of course you don't feel a need to 'vent drama'. But you're right. This happens every four years. All this means is that we are DEFINITELY going to be able to get rid of Bush. So all we have to worry about is Bush and Co. trying so pull some crap about allowing him a third term when he finds his War on Terror isn't quite over in 2008.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:00 PM   #67
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So do we, radar. Can you go join the wife in the workers paradise?
Who is "we?" You and the mouse in your pocket?
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:12 PM   #68
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But it was people who had access to roughly the same level of weapon technology as their opposition. Joe Average is just SLIGHTLY outgunned when compared to our armed forces and law enforcement, and that's leaving out the heavy stuff.
You're forgetting three things:

1) do you think that all members of the armed forces are happy with the situation?

2) how many members of the armed forces do you think are willing to actually fire on US citizens?

3) do you think enough of the weapons in this country are accouted for that the military is willing to mount such an offensive in the first place?
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:22 PM   #69
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Who is "we?" You and the mouse in your pocket?
shhhhh. I'm trying to encourage radar to leave the country.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:25 PM   #70
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You're forgetting three things:

1) do you think that all members of the armed forces are happy with the situation?

2) how many members of the armed forces do you think are willing to actually fire on US citizens?

3) do you think enough of the weapons in this country are accouted for that the military is willing to mount such an offensive in the first place?
1) No, but they _do_ know how to follow orders, particularly when they feel that right is on their side. When citizens are engaging in armed insurrection against the government, they won't get much sympathy.

2) If the citizens are armed and ready to fire on them, enough. You wanna go first?

3) I have no idea what you mean by that. The armed forces have FAR superior weaponry to anything to which the general public has access.

Or are there liberal armories with assault weapons, attack helicopters and such that I haven't been told about yet?
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:26 PM   #71
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If you believe there will be a draft, and you voted on that basis, you are a loser, an idiot, and a moron, and I can prove it to within several significant digits.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:30 PM   #72
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Or are there liberal armories with assault weapons, attack helicopters and such that I haven't been told about yet?
Where the hell is slang when I need him...
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:30 PM   #73
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fuck
shit
damn
piss
hell

i am SO dissapointed in my fellow assmericans.

the stupid are taking over the world. they breed faster. like retarded rabbits.

crap.
Okay, I REALLY need someone to explain to me (apparently because I'm stupid) why someone who voted for Bush is a retarted rabbit.

I am simply not grasping the source of all the vitrolic rage coming from the blue camp today.

51% of the American people chose what they wanted. So that means we're getting what we WANT, not what we 'deserve'. More voters came to the polls this year than did any other year since Kennedy was elected in 1960. This is the first year that the president won both the popular vote as well as the Electoral college.

You may not be happy with what happened last night. You may be plotting to have Ohio surgically removed from the union. You may even be thinking about moving to Canada (mapquest has good directions....have at it). But why does a difference in opinion make someone stupid?

If you didn't vote, you have no right to open your mouth. (But I think most of you did - unfortunately, I deal with the "I didn't vote , but Kerry should have won" population at the office.)
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:32 PM   #74
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I didn't vote on that basis, UT. It IS a consideration. Prove it. And I don't believe I am an idiot, loser or moron. Other people are, though. Nyah!
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:35 PM   #75
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Not quite.
Easy for you to say. You're new tagline says it all. "My guy won." Well, your guy winning will make it just that much more difficult for me to get on with my life, and I'm not alone. There are many, many more Americans like me - decent people who just are down on their luck, and the Bush/Republican domestic policy is to merely discard us. I hope you're prepared to be personally accountable for the outcomes of the next 4 years since "your guy won."
I just have one thought on this whole situation....

Democrats have generally been supporters of more Social Programs...the funding of which comes from where....let's see...more tax dollars, which in turn reduces my pay check. Republicans have generally be supporters of fewer Social Programs, preferring that people do what they can to support themselves...which in turn...keeps the money I earn, in MY pocket. Now, I'm not questioning why you may or may not be working. I'm also not saying that it may or may not be a valid reason to be relying on social programs.

But personally, I don't think the Republican Domestic policy is to discard people - in turn, it's a movement to get people to be more personally responsible for their own lives, health and welfare - rather than relying on the Government to support them, pay their bills, give them goodies.

You have bootstraps....tug on them, you may be suprised where you get.

And before you jump on my back....I'm a single, white woman, living on my own, making a minimal salary, with my own health issues and not taking a single blessed dime from the Government. And damn proud of it.
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