4/21/2002 extra: Jenin satellite photos

Undertoad · 04-21-2002, 06:25 PM

How massive was the Israeli invasion of Jenin? As individual news photos show numerous heart-breaking scenes of death and loss, the one thing we are lacking is proportion. What better to show proportion, then, but to show a satellite image of the place. In the first image, the circled area is the combat zone - 100 yards long.

DeusExMachina · 04-21-2002, 09:21 PM

It took me a while to figure out how these images are oriented relative to each other, so I thought I'd cache that info here for everyone else.

The top of the first picture is almost aligned with the top of the last. You can see the grass and the corner of the intersection that occupies the top left of the last picture directly over the oval of the first picture.

The second picture is nearly 180 degrees off, however. If you look at the third picture, just "campward" of the green grassy area you can see a yellowish dirt mound, and to its left a small bright red roof. These can be seen in the bottom right of the second image as a yellow blob at the edge, and a little red thing to its right.

For reference inside the square itself, there's one little cubical building in the bottom center of the oval, the left center of the square and just above the two small red angled roofs in the third picture. Those two roofs themselves don't show up well in the other shots.

With that I can get a vague idea of how the whole area is laid out... enough that I would guess the second shot was actually from BEFORE the destruction as there appear to be several buildings in it that are rubble in the others. (but maybe not)

Hope all that helps everyone else. Oh, and hi: first time listener long time caller. Or whatever. :p

Yelof · 04-22-2002, 02:18 AM

Oh so that was why Israel kept the rescuers, paramedics and UN agencies out...so that they could get some good souvenir shots ´proving´ that there was no massacre before the photos would be ruined with pesky ambulances crawling over them.

tw · 04-22-2002, 02:36 PM

It is rather difficult to believe that 13,000 people lived in what you see in that satellite photograph. However few buildings appear beyond the beltway road. I wonder if that is most of the town.

Undertoad · 04-22-2002, 02:46 PM

There ya go.

04-21-2002, 06:25 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	4/21/2002 extra: Jenin satellite photos How massive was the Israeli invasion of Jenin? As individual news photos show numerous heart-breaking scenes of death and loss, the one thing we are lacking is proportion. What better to show proportion, then, but to show a satellite image of the place. In the first image, the circled area is the combat zone - 100 yards long.

04-21-2002, 09:21 PM	#2
DeusExMachina Kinda New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1	Orientation It took me a while to figure out how these images are oriented relative to each other, so I thought I'd cache that info here for everyone else. The top of the first picture is almost aligned with the top of the last. You can see the grass and the corner of the intersection that occupies the top left of the last picture directly over the oval of the first picture. The second picture is nearly 180 degrees off, however. If you look at the third picture, just "campward" of the green grassy area you can see a yellowish dirt mound, and to its left a small bright red roof. These can be seen in the bottom right of the second image as a yellow blob at the edge, and a little red thing to its right. For reference inside the square itself, there's one little cubical building in the bottom center of the oval, the left center of the square and just above the two small red angled roofs in the third picture. Those two roofs themselves don't show up well in the other shots. With that I can get a vague idea of how the whole area is laid out... enough that I would guess the second shot was actually from BEFORE the destruction as there appear to be several buildings in it that are rubble in the others. (but maybe not) Hope all that helps everyone else. Oh, and hi: first time listener long time caller. Or whatever. :p __________________ --- DeusExMachina

04-22-2002, 02:18 AM	#3
Yelof neither here nor there Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 179	Oh so that was why Israel kept the rescuers, paramedics and UN agencies out...so that they could get some good souvenir shots ´proving´ that there was no massacre before the photos would be ruined with pesky ambulances crawling over them.

04-22-2002, 02:36 PM	#4
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	It is rather difficult to believe that 13,000 people lived in what you see in that satellite photograph. However few buildings appear beyond the beltway road. I wonder if that is most of the town.

04-22-2002, 02:46 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	There ya go.

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