Woman killed for her unborn baby

glatt · 12-20-2004, 08:06 AM

I doubt it will fly in court either. But that's more a comment of the politics of the times than a comment on her mental condition.

lookout123 · 12-20-2004, 11:08 AM

how does being out of one's gourd make this any less heinous? insane or not, she should be put to death. the insanity defense to avoid the death penalty is such BS. if a conviction for a crime would result in the death penalty for someone who didn't use the insanity defense, why should a nutjob get off any easier? the crime is the same, why shouldn't the penalty be the same?

glatt · 12-20-2004, 11:31 AM

Because the crime is not the same.

Do you blame a person for having cancer? Do you blame a person for having heart disease? Why do you blame a person for another illness, when a symptom of that illness happens to be against the law?

It's against the law to take a dump on the sidewalk, but if you have dysentary and involuntarily crap your pants, resulting in some shit dribbling down your pant leg and onto the sidewalk, I would submit that you are far less guilty of shitting on the sidewalk than someone who does it on purpose. Even though you both did it. Rather than going to jail, I think such a person should get medical attention.

Yes, the violently insane are a danger to society. Lock them up in a mental hospital. Treat them. If they recover fully, let them out. What good does putting them to death do?

I don't know the details of this killing, so I can't really comment on her, but I think that most people would agree that cutting a pregnant woman open and stealing her child is not an example of a sane human being.

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12-20-2004, 08:06 AM	#1
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I doubt it will fly in court either. But that's more a comment of the politics of the times than a comment on her mental condition.

12-20-2004, 11:31 AM	#3
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Because the crime is not the same. Do you blame a person for having cancer? Do you blame a person for having heart disease? Why do you blame a person for another illness, when a symptom of that illness happens to be against the law? It's against the law to take a dump on the sidewalk, but if you have dysentary and involuntarily crap your pants, resulting in some shit dribbling down your pant leg and onto the sidewalk, I would submit that you are far less guilty of shitting on the sidewalk than someone who does it on purpose. Even though you both did it. Rather than going to jail, I think such a person should get medical attention. Yes, the violently insane are a danger to society. Lock them up in a mental hospital. Treat them. If they recover fully, let them out. What good does putting them to death do? I don't know the details of this killing, so I can't really comment on her, but I think that most people would agree that cutting a pregnant woman open and stealing her child is not an example of a sane human being.

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