Mozilla Release Candidate 1 - Page 2

04-29-2002, 09:48 AM

Wow.

I am just mightily impressed with Release Candidate 1.

I've got it installed on MacOS X and Linux at home, Windows here at work. It's pretty zippy on all of the systems. Though the two at home are both dual processor boxes with over a gig of RAM and are very fast, my work machine is nothing spectacular - 500MHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM. Doesn't matter - Mozilla is still speedy.

It's webpage rendering is pretty good. There are sometimes little quirks with stuff like MSNBC, but overall, it handles pretty much everything.

I've found the Java support on Linux to be good. To me, good Java support means that I can play Euchre on Yahoo! Games without any hiccups (yes, I know, it's spelled hiccough).

The Gray Modern theme is <b>nice</b>. I like the regular "Modern" too, but it's too blue for me (I prefer a grey for my desktop apps). The grey is still very elegant and smooth.

Mozilla is currently only eating up 22 MB of RAM - that's acceptable to me, though it's more than a browser <b>should</b> use. I have a more stripped-down install at home, so it generally uses less there. Still, a browser that uses say 10 MB of RAM would be nice.

I like it. I like it a lot. All of the bugs that used to annoy the hell out of me have been fixed. It looks sharp. It's quick. The text box works fine. Secure transactions work fine. It allows me to customize the JavaScript setup - I don't allow window moving or resizing, raising or lowing of windows or opening unrequested windows. This actually makes the web pleasant to browse again. I hate using any browser other than Mozilla simply because of all the popups and pop-unders and all that shit. Now I don't have to worry about it. That's all Mozilla.

No complaints. Mozilla is finally becoming great.

MaggieL · 04-29-2002, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by dhamsaic
There are sometimes little quirks with stuff like MSNBC...

Imagine my shock and surprise. MSNBC and MSN have been trying to sabotage anybody who's not running IE for years.

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I've found the Java support on Linux to be good. To me, good Java support means that I can play Euchre on Yahoo!

Well, it also means that stuff like VNC will run well.

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No complaints. Mozilla is finally becoming great.

Indeed. I *love* the tabbed browsing, especially with "load tabs in background" and "middle mouse button opens in new tab" turned on.

And "Web search for {selected text}" is a real winner too, since the search can be told to send it to Google.

04-29-2002, 12:12 PM

Yep.

The one complaint I have is that they've removed the "Back" and "Forward" menu items from the popup on images. IE does that shit too and it's a pain in the ass. I always use the right click -> Back to go back a page and when an image is in the way, it just slows me down. They should have kept that, or at least have an option in the preferences to stick a back item in there.

As for MSNBC, they're actually more neutral than you'd think. They definitely are tailored to IE, but it's not like they won't work with Mozilla. They actually display and work fine with Navigator, for example (or at least they used to). Navigator was broken too, though - just like IE - by non-standards. In Mozilla's quest to be standards-based, it fails at rendering some web pages how they were intended to be viewed. I don't think it's a scheme on the part of MSNBC so much as it is just something they haven't realized yet, and when they do, I'm sure they'll fix it.

juju · 05-01-2002, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by MaggieL

Indeed. I *love* the tabbed browsing, especially with "load tabs in background" and "middle mouse button opens in new tab" turned on.

This is the sole reason I switched from Konqueror to Mozilla.

For the longest time I used Konqueor and loved it soley because of it's speed. But the whole tabbed thing is just TOO convenient. It's worth the loss in load times to not have 4-6 virtual desktops with browser windows in them.

MaggieL · 05-11-2002, 12:36 PM

...and it fixes that embarassing XML vuln. There's also a bunch of patches and crash fixes rolled in....I hope that includes the annoying problem where the mail message lists gets out of sync with the preview pane.

RC2 also includes support for HTTP pipelining; it's off by default--I turned it on, we'll see what happens.

Speaking of Konq and tabbed browsing, I hear the latest Kong has tabbed browsing.

StrngTerrapin · 05-16-2002, 01:21 AM

I am finally able to get away from IE (and even Netscape sometimes) and not lose complete functionality. The new release of Mozilla is excellent. Looks nice, amazingly stable, I am very impressed. I suggest it to anyone.

05-26-2002, 12:46 PM

RC3 is sexy. I'm running it at work and at home now. There are a couple of things I'd like to see introduced (like dragging bookmarks into their folders from the URL bar), but all in all, it's pretty tight. It's working very well.

Here's a fun bug for you Windows users: Launch Mozilla, minimize it, launch it again. Now, try to type a URL in the location bar.

That's supposed to be fixed soon, though. And I don't have to deal with it on Linux.

Anyway, it looks like we're finally getting close. Mozilla is becoming a real browser now. I'm happy.

MaggieL · 05-26-2002, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by dhamsaic
RC3 is sexy. I'm running it at work and at home now. There are a couple of things I'd like to see introduced (like dragging bookmarks into their folders from the URL bar)

Hmm. That works on RC2. Maybe you should report it....

MaggieL · 05-26-2002, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by juju2112

For the longest time I used Konqueor and loved it soley because of it's speed. But the whole tabbed thing is just TOO convenient.

Of course, the latest konq has tabbed browsing too. The bad news is that you need a complete new KDE to get it.

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be. ”—Kurt Vonnegut

juju · 05-30-2002, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by MaggieL

Of course, the latest konq has tabbed browsing too. The bad news is that you need a complete new KDE to get it.

Yeah, I know. That's way too inconvenient, though. Every tried to compile KDE from source? Yipes!

I do await the debian packages eagerly, though. :]

jaguar · 05-30-2002, 06:04 AM

RC is seems to be far mroe stable, hasent crashed in a week of use yet. On the other hand, right click copy does not seem to work...

MaggieL · 05-30-2002, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by jaguar
RC is seems to be far mroe stable...

*which* RC? There are now three of them...

05-11-2002, 12:36 PM	#20
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	RC2 is out... ...and it fixes that embarassing XML vuln. There's also a bunch of patches and crash fixes rolled in....I hope that includes the annoying problem where the mail message lists gets out of sync with the preview pane. RC2 also includes support for HTTP pipelining; it's off by default--I turned it on, we'll see what happens. Speaking of Konq and tabbed browsing, I hear the latest Kong has tabbed browsing. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

05-16-2002, 01:21 AM	#21
StrngTerrapin Jotter of Notes Join Date: May 2002 Location: Arizona and Maryland Posts: 11	Happiness... I am finally able to get away from IE (and even Netscape sometimes) and not lose complete functionality. The new release of Mozilla is excellent. Looks nice, amazingly stable, I am very impressed. I suggest it to anyone.

05-30-2002, 06:04 AM	#26
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	RC is seems to be far mroe stable, hasent crashed in a week of use yet. On the other hand, right click copy does not seem to work... __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

04-29-2002, 09:48 AM	#16
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Wow. I am just mightily impressed with Release Candidate 1. I've got it installed on MacOS X and Linux at home, Windows here at work. It's pretty zippy on all of the systems. Though the two at home are both dual processor boxes with over a gig of RAM and are very fast, my work machine is nothing spectacular - 500MHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM. Doesn't matter - Mozilla is still speedy. It's webpage rendering is pretty good. There are sometimes little quirks with stuff like MSNBC, but overall, it handles pretty much everything. I've found the Java support on Linux to be good. To me, good Java support means that I can play Euchre on Yahoo! Games without any hiccups (yes, I know, it's spelled hiccough). The Gray Modern theme is <b>nice</b>. I like the regular "Modern" too, but it's too blue for me (I prefer a grey for my desktop apps). The grey is still very elegant and smooth. Mozilla is currently only eating up 22 MB of RAM - that's acceptable to me, though it's more than a browser <b>should</b> use. I have a more stripped-down install at home, so it generally uses less there. Still, a browser that uses say 10 MB of RAM would be nice. I like it. I like it a lot. All of the bugs that used to annoy the hell out of me have been fixed. It looks sharp. It's quick. The text box works fine. Secure transactions work fine. It allows me to customize the JavaScript setup - I don't allow window moving or resizing, raising or lowing of windows or opening unrequested windows. This actually makes the web pleasant to browse again. I hate using any browser other than Mozilla simply because of all the popups and pop-unders and all that shit. Now I don't have to worry about it. That's all Mozilla. No complaints. Mozilla is finally becoming great.

04-29-2002, 12:12 PM	#18
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Yep. The one complaint I have is that they've removed the "Back" and "Forward" menu items from the popup on images. IE does that shit too and it's a pain in the ass. I always use the right click -> Back to go back a page and when an image is in the way, it just slows me down. They should have kept that, or at least have an option in the preferences to stick a back item in there. As for MSNBC, they're actually more neutral than you'd think. They definitely are tailored to IE, but it's not like they won't work with Mozilla. They actually display and work fine with Navigator, for example (or at least they used to). Navigator was broken too, though - just like IE - by non-standards. In Mozilla's quest to be standards-based, it fails at rendering some web pages how they were intended to be viewed. I don't think it's a scheme on the part of MSNBC so much as it is just something they haven't realized yet, and when they do, I'm sure they'll fix it.

05-26-2002, 12:46 PM	#22
dave Guest Posts: n/a	RC3 is sexy. I'm running it at work and at home now. There are a couple of things I'd like to see introduced (like dragging bookmarks into their folders from the URL bar), but all in all, it's pretty tight. It's working very well. Here's a fun bug for you Windows users: Launch Mozilla, minimize it, launch it again. Now, try to type a URL in the location bar. That's supposed to be fixed soon, though. And I don't have to deal with it on Linux. Anyway, it looks like we're finally getting close. Mozilla is becoming a real browser now. I'm happy.

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