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Old 08-17-2005, 04:44 PM   #31
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They installed "roundabouts" in a few of my neighborhood intersections too--except the damn intersection isn't big enough for a roundabout, so it basically amounts to having to swerve around a 3-foot-wide obstacle in the middle of the road.
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Old 08-17-2005, 05:43 PM   #32
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Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies)
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:20 PM   #33
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or play AFL (Australian Rules Football or "footy")
you get knocked around pretty hard in that if youre not quick enough. its like full contact soccer and you can use your hands but the ball is oval shaped.
AFL players have also been noted to having the highest recovery rate from injuries that athletes from other sports
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:12 AM   #34
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Isn't this what you're really trying to achieve?
Sort of, only not on a superhighway. Just a heavily-travelled, four lane road.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:14 AM   #35
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... and avoiding sitting at the light for 12 years in Delaware county traffic trying to make a left turn.
I have gone significantly out of my way to avoid left hand turns, particularly in really bad traffic.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:19 AM   #36
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One of my friends lives in a neighborhood in Broomall that has traffic circles for no discernable reason.

It's a development.

It does not get a lot of pass-through traffic. Heavy traffic would be a half dozen or so cars an hour.

The traffic circles are much more fun in the dead of night when one is liquored up a bit.

Edit to add: So I've heard.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:20 AM   #37
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headache just lookin at that.. monstrosity
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:01 AM   #38
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out of all the things on that "cleese" letter i thought you guys would be talking about, i never expected bloody round abouts. i love em
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:29 AM   #39
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out of all the things on that "cleese" letter i thought you guys would be talking about, i never expected bloody round abouts. i love em
Because the rest is true
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:40 AM   #40
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out of all the things on that "cleese" letter i thought you guys would be talking about, i never expected bloody round abouts. i love em
You should always expect the unexpected - except that this may not be possible because if the unexpected is expected, it really can not then be classed as being unexpected, can it? Expect you were expecting that reply (rather than it being unexpected) !
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:41 AM   #41
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.. monstrosity
Good word.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:44 AM   #42
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Those tiny "roundabouts" in residential neighborhoods are usually put there as a traffic calming device. You have to swerve to avoid the island, and the planners hope you slow down a bit too. They are an alternative to speed bumps or humps. The snowplows have an easier time with them.

Of course, 4 way stop signs are cheaper and more effective at slowing down traffic on residential streets.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:21 AM   #43
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The snowplows have an easier time with them.
I think that's probably not an issue here...
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Old 08-18-2005, 04:13 PM   #44
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Roundabouts are infesting the KC area increasingly. They aren't so annoying in the new developments, but when they sneak them into streets you've been driving on for 30 years...well, let's just say that it is unsettling at best.

I live just South of the intersection of 3 major highways. As luck would have it, they converge in a generally triangular arrangement as seen from the air, and it is known as the "Grandview Triangle". It is a great double-entendre, though, because it wasn't really named that because of the shape...it was named that because cars go in, but they don't come out...ala the Bermuda Triangle.

It is undergoing a massive, complete reconstruction right now, and when all is complete, there will be a couple of roundabouts constructed as part of the rather more elaborate thoroughfare crossings/entrance ramp intersections (you'd sort of have to see the 3D visualizations online to understand what I mean...in fact, *I* even have to go back and look at them to get it).

I dearly hope it is better when complete. It would be difficult for it to be worse.
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