Illegal Immigrants Are Killing Us

[Pie]

Okay -- so who is going to pick your fruit, wash your dishes, mow your lawn?...
Do a little research before you start spouting garbage. Here's a good (short) article to start with: http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-imopi.html

[dar512]

Originally Posted by Pie

Okay -- so who is going to pick your fruit, wash your dishes, mow your lawn?...
Do a little research before you start spouting garbage. Here's a good (short) article to start with: http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-imopi.html

Not that I agree with nicotine, but I live in the Chicago 'burbs - so no fruit trees. The lot is small so I don't mind mowing. And I have a daughter on dish duty.

So I don't need immigrants for any of that.

[tw]

Originally Posted by dar512

Not that I agree with nicotine, but I live in the Chicago 'burbs - so no fruit trees. The lot is small so I don't mind mowing. And I have a daughter on dish duty.

So I don't need immigrants for any of that.

But you do need your sugar. Sugar foolishly is produced in the US because your taxes pay for half of it. IOW Jose and Juan have no jobs. The sugar industry cannot move to where it is easy to produce AND where the people need jobs. So what do these people do? They do exactly as your own ancestors did when there were no jobs and where government / religious intolerance told them what religion to worship. Illegals go where the jobs are. There will be no stopping them by force because America needs them - in part thanks to the US government's enriching of selective industries.

If you have problem with illegal immigration, then start by demanding the administration stop subsidizing so many agricultural industries. As long as the government subsidizes food - and the biggest offenders are France and the U.S. - then we must import illegal immigrants in massive numbers.

[Pie]

Originally Posted by dar512

Not that I agree with nicotine, but I live in the Chicago 'burbs - so no fruit trees. The lot is small so I don't mind mowing. And I have a daughter on dish duty.

Ever eat out? Ever eat a peach shipped from Cali? Still the same illegals. It doesn't have to be local to have a large impact on the economy that affects you.

[Hobbs]

You see, the main issue with illegal aliens is that...well, there illegal. They are breaking the law, they are here illegallly. I don't see why we should reward those who are breaking the law. Someone breaks into your house and steals all your electronic equipment. They get caught but someone thinks we should compensate that person monitarily for the time they spend in jail. Obviously, this a fictional scenario, but it's pretty much what folks want to see happen with illegal migrants. Give them the same rights I have for being here illegally.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not one of those people who complains because the imigrants are taking "my jobs" away from me. Pie has a point, who is going to do these mundain jobs that most Americans don't want anything to do with. I just had three Hispanic gentlemen in my backyard for the last three days moving dirt around to re-grade my yard. In the middle of August in the hot Arizona sun...what a suckass job that is. But there they were, working their buns off. I wouldn't want that job, no way, no how. But why do they have to be illegal aliens. I'm not hip on the mechanics of how to get to America legally. I don't know whether it cost money, there's a huge waiting list, that we only allow a certain number of folks in, how work visa's work. I don't know. Maybe someone can clue me in on how this works.

When you have illegal aliens working in this country, two things happen. One, they usually are getting paid under the table becuase they don't have social security numbers, so they are not paying taxes to support the public services that they use. Two, most of the money goes back over the border to support the rest of the family in Mexico. So in my slightly elementry economic knowledge, that does nothing for our economy.

[NICOTINEGUN]

Originally Posted by Pie

Okay -- so who is going to pick your fruit, wash your dishes, mow your lawn?...
Do a little research before you start spouting garbage. Here's a good (short) article to start with: http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-imopi.html

If a NASA monkey can pilot a space craft, he can pick fruit. For all I care the damned prisoners in CA can pick the fruit all day long instead of watching television and learning new and better ways to break the law and kill each other. However, we could make them fight eachother in the attempt to make them kill each other.
Now this may just be the Gaius Caligula(3rd Emperor of Rome) blood line in me speaking, but imagine how much money we could raise by reinstating the gladiator arena in prisons. The monkeys can pick the fruit and the violent offenders can fight to the death. Brilliant!!!! I know, I know, they have rights too.
I believe Uncle Caligula said it best when he said "If all of Rome had but one throat to slit." Ahhh, Uncle Caligula.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by NICOTINEGUN

If a NASA monkey can pilot a space craft, he can pick fruit. For all I care the damned prisoners in CA can pick the fruit all day long instead of watching television and learning new and better ways to break the law and kill each other. However, we could make them fight eachother in the attempt to make them kill each other.
Now this may just be the Gaius Caligula(3rd Emperor of Rome) blood line in me speaking, but imagine how much money we could raise by reinstating the gladiator arena in prisons. The monkeys can pick the fruit and the violent offenders can fight to the death. Brilliant!!!! I know, I know, they have rights too.
I believe Uncle Caligula said it best when he said "If all of Rome had but one throat to slit." Ahhh, Uncle Caligula.

*Ahem*

You forgot to say it's Clinton's fault. An honest oversight, I'm sure. Carry on.

Originally Posted by BigV

*Ahem*

You forgot to say it's Clinton's fault. An honest oversight, I'm sure. Carry on.

[Pie]

Originally Posted by NICOTINEGUN

If a NASA monkey can pilot a space craft, he can pick fruit.

A multi-million dollar monkey picking fruit? That'll be a $50,000 peach, sir. Pay in cash at the register.