Illegal Immigrants Are Killing Us

mrnoodle · 08-30-2005, 01:57 PM

Close the borders, but make it easier to become a legal immigrant. If you want to become an American, we should make room for you. If you want to be a [insert country here]-ian, but take advantage of the American welfare system, our infrastructure, our health care, too damn bad. If you ring the doorbell and come in through the front door, you're a guest or a resident. If you crawl in through the window, you're an intruder.

bluecuracao · 08-30-2005, 03:55 PM

Damn, ignorant crap like this pisses me off. OK, must calm down...must focus...

Those of you who think that illegal immigrants are leeching resources from us, without any return...Do you really think the IRS is that stupid?

There is a special tax ID number with which illegal immigrants can use to pay wage tax and Social Security. It's estimated that they pay in BILLIONS, and they usually do not end up collecting Social Security.

Why would illegal immigrants bother to get an ID number and pay taxes? Well, they are people who have most likely risked everything, including death, to come here and make better lives for themselves and their families. They see getting the special tax ID as a way to put themselves in good graces with the U.S. government.

Yes, some end up not being able to be as productive as they set out to be, and then there are the bad seeds. But for the most part, illegal immigrants have to rely on emergency health services because they work jobs which do not offer health care or allow them to afford health care insurance.

People always seems to forget this:

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Originally Posted by Radar

America was built by immigrants. Unless he's 100% American Indian, the only difference between his family and illegal Mexican immigrants is the accent with which they speak. When European immigrants came to America, all they had to do was show up and they'd be welcomed.

My great-grandparents were Mexicans until New Mexico became a state in 1912. My great-grandfather spoke five languages, including Spanish--English was not one of them. Learning a little Spanish is not going to kill anyone, in fact, it will only help, because Spanish is the most widely spoken language in the world.

Aargh!

Elspode · 08-30-2005, 04:36 PM

If we had to rely on non-Hispanic workers here (of course, they are *all* legal, according to their ID's, which I am not required to be an expert about...their SS #'s are good, anyway), we'd be out of business. As far as I can tell, there aren't 50 qualified white guys in the entire city who even want the jobs we offer (insulation, gutter and fireplace installation).

NICOTINEGUN · 08-31-2005, 10:26 AM

As far as I can tell, there aren't 50 qualified white guys in the entire city who even want the jobs we offer (insulation, gutter and fireplace installation).[/quote]

Ahh, I knew it wouldn't take long before some doomed fool brought up skin color. We're talking about skin color here, Dear Friend. We're talking about my tax dollars paying for people who weren't born here. Congratulations, by the way. You've earned the first, of many I'm sure, Race Card Alert Notice. You've taken the short cut to thinking by using race as the issue. Tell the good Rev. Sharpton I said hello, will you?

Elspode · 08-31-2005, 02:26 PM

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Ahh, I knew it wouldn't take long before some doomed fool brought up skin color. We're talking about skin color here, Dear Friend. We're talking about my tax dollars paying for people who weren't born here. Congratulations, by the way. You've earned the first, of many I'm sure, Race Card Alert Notice. You've taken the short cut to thinking by using race as the issue. Tell the good Rev. Sharpton I said hello, will you?

How is it irrelevant to point out that, out of fifty field installers at my company, 45 of them are Hispanic? We hire qualified people, and very few qualified Caucasians apply.

You tell *me* why one can never mention race as a factor in any way, shape or form without being labelled racist...unless, of course, one isn't Caucasian, in which case any amount of race card playing is par for the course.

And...be careful whom you label either fool or racist, eh? I'm neither.

Hobbs · 08-31-2005, 02:30 PM

NIC, wow. Fruit picking chimps, closing of borders, the quoting Adolf Hilter. Pretty adventuress. Only 42 Posts and already an outspoken, brave, feared, and disliked poster.

And now to quote a very brilliant fellow Cellarite: "Now watch as we wake up this troll."

capnhowdy · 08-31-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NICOTINEGUN

As far as I can tell, there aren't 50 qualified white guys in the entire city who even want the jobs we offer (insulation, gutter and fireplace installation).

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Ahh, I knew it wouldn't take long before some doomed fool brought up skin color. We're talking about skin color here, Dear Friend. We're talking about my tax dollars paying for people who weren't born here. Congratulations, by the way. You've earned the first, of many I'm sure, Race Card Alert Notice. You've taken the short cut to thinking by using race as the issue. Tell the good Rev. Sharpton I said hello, will you?

get a life and quit whining already.
and what the hell is a DOOMED fool........ can you share THAT with me?

NICOTINEGUN · 08-31-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

get a life and quit whining already.
and what the hell is a DOOMED fool........ can you share THAT with me?

Doomed Fool: person destined to live a life of agony and mental anguish due to ignorance and failure to take the long road to thinking.

lookout123 · 08-30-2005, 10:39 PM

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You see, the main issue with illegal aliens is that...well, there illegal. They are breaking the law, they are here illegallly.

forget it hobbs, they don't have illegals traipsing through their backyards so this is purely intellectual for them. now if they move down here, they might be more interested in seeing the reality of it. if i think about it i will take some pics of Bell road some morning and post it. then everyone can see the illegals standing around waiting for someone to come and illegally hire their illegal asses.

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Well this has totally buggered up my holiday plans. It was going to be a choice between Mexico and New Orleans.

go to mexico. it is a wonderful vacation spot (many parts), and you will be putting money into their economy, maybe getting some to stay home.

wolf · 08-31-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

There is a special tax ID number with which illegal immigrants can use to pay wage tax and Social Security. It's estimated that they pay in BILLIONS, and they usually do not end up collecting Social Security.

[dripping]I'm sure that they are applying for these "special tax ID numbers" in droves. [/sarcasm]

Tonchi · 09-16-2005, 05:00 PM

I regret having to bring this thread up again, but one of the people covering Katrina cleanup efforts showed film of busloads of hispanic immigrants being BROUGHT IN from North Carolina by one retailer, to clean up his facilities! If this is not the absolute utmost, preposterous, non-PC joke yet! 68,000 people out of work in the area so he imports immigrants.

If interviewed, would he have said, as did Mexican President Vicente Fox, that this is work that he can't even find blacks who would take it?

08-30-2005, 01:57 PM	#1
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	Close the borders, but make it easier to become a legal immigrant. If you want to become an American, we should make room for you. If you want to be a [insert country here]-ian, but take advantage of the American welfare system, our infrastructure, our health care, too damn bad. If you ring the doorbell and come in through the front door, you're a guest or a resident. If you crawl in through the window, you're an intruder. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

08-30-2005, 04:36 PM	#3
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	If we had to rely on non-Hispanic workers here (of course, they are all legal, according to their ID's, which I am not required to be an expert about...their SS #'s are good, anyway), we'd be out of business. As far as I can tell, there aren't 50 qualified white guys in the entire city who even want the jobs we offer (insulation, gutter and fireplace installation). __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-31-2005, 10:26 AM	#4
NICOTINEGUN Resident President Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 82	RACE CARD ALERT!!!!! As far as I can tell, there aren't 50 qualified white guys in the entire city who even want the jobs we offer (insulation, gutter and fireplace installation).[/quote] Ahh, I knew it wouldn't take long before some doomed fool brought up skin color. We're talking about skin color here, Dear Friend. We're talking about my tax dollars paying for people who weren't born here. Congratulations, by the way. You've earned the first, of many I'm sure, Race Card Alert Notice. You've taken the short cut to thinking by using race as the issue. Tell the good Rev. Sharpton I said hello, will you? __________________ Hurricanes are racist!

08-31-2005, 02:30 PM	#6
Hobbs Professor for the school of ass-clownery Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Surprise! Posts: 404	NIC, wow. Fruit picking chimps, closing of borders, the quoting Adolf Hilter. Pretty adventuress. Only 42 Posts and already an outspoken, brave, feared, and disliked poster. And now to quote a very brilliant fellow Cellarite: "Now watch as we wake up this troll." __________________ That's it! Send in the chimps!

09-16-2005, 05:00 PM	#11
Tonchi Victim of gravity Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hiding in plain sight Posts: 1,412	I regret having to bring this thread up again, but one of the people covering Katrina cleanup efforts showed film of busloads of hispanic immigrants being BROUGHT IN from North Carolina by one retailer, to clean up his facilities! If this is not the absolute utmost, preposterous, non-PC joke yet! 68,000 people out of work in the area so he imports immigrants. If interviewed, would he have said, as did Mexican President Vicente Fox, that this is work that he can't even find blacks who would take it? __________________ Everything you've ever heard about Fresno is true.

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