"Honor" Rapes

Troubleshooter · 01-14-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's not believing the invisible man exists, it's believing He tells other people what you should do.

True, but a lot of people turn to deity when they've run out of answers meaning they are looking to be told what to do...

xoxoxoBruce · 01-14-2006, 06:58 PM

I agree, but I think a far greater proportion would hear the "right" thing, when tempered by their conscience and logic, than when they just listen to a clergy and just accepting what they hear.
Of course in terms of this thread, one very big fly in the ointment is tradition. Hundreds, sometimes thousands of years, of doing what is "wrong" in our view. I guess they feel the same about us.

Troubleshooter · 01-14-2006, 07:00 PM

Big difference though, we're right.

Just ask Bush, God said so.

01-14-2006, 08:57 PM

Well, I will say that our culture is more "right" in its treatment of women, and I knew that before W. ever got to be president and announce the word of god to the rest of us.

Up to 300 or so years ago, Western culture deemed it "right" to label some people (often women) witches and burn them at the stake. A mere 60 or so years ago, a significant portion of the German people either considered it "right" (or turned their heads the other way) to send Jews off to the crematorium.

As an aside: My parents met and married in Germany several years after WWII. I came across their marriage licence while going through some old papers the other day. I was interested to note that even 6 years after the war had ended and Germany was still pretty much occupied by the US, the German civil form for a marriage licence had remained unchanged since 1937. There was a space where the faith of each person had to be typed in, so it reads:

Marichiko's Dad - Evangelical; Marichiko's Mom - Catholic

A small reminder of a time when a person's faith was, indeed, a matter of life or death. I'd love to know what my Dad said to the German official who issued that document. He must have been having fun with the guy, because my Dad was ANYTHING but an "Evangelical" Christian!

But I digress. The point I was trying to make is that we often translate the word of the society which prevails at the time into the word of God. There IS a difference, but many people, ESPECIALLY fundamentalists, don't pick up on this minor point.

It must annoy God no end.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-14-2006, 10:15 PM

Ah ha, that explains it. You're half Evangelical.

01-14-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Ah ha, that explains it. You're half Evangelical.

Yeah, Evangelical with Catholic. Talk about mind blowing! When I speak in tongues it comes out Latin!

xoxoxoBruce · 01-15-2006, 11:05 AM

Oooh, Latin! No wonder I couldn't understand what you've been babbling about.

I'm sorry.....that was just too easy.

richlevy · 01-15-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

When I speak in tongues it comes out Latin!

I know there are women who find the speaking of tongues to be very arousing. Of course, it depends where one's head is buried while speaking.

01-14-2006, 06:58 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I agree, but I think a far greater proportion would hear the "right" thing, when tempered by their conscience and logic, than when they just listen to a clergy and just accepting what they hear. Of course in terms of this thread, one very big fly in the ointment is tradition. Hundreds, sometimes thousands of years, of doing what is "wrong" in our view. I guess they feel the same about us. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-14-2006, 07:00 PM	#3
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Big difference though, we're right. Just ask Bush, God said so. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

01-14-2006, 10:15 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Ah ha, that explains it. You're half Evangelical. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-15-2006, 11:05 AM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Oooh, Latin! No wonder I couldn't understand what you've been babbling about. I'm sorry.....that was just too easy. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-14-2006, 08:57 PM	#4
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I will say that our culture is more "right" in its treatment of women, and I knew that before W. ever got to be president and announce the word of god to the rest of us. Up to 300 or so years ago, Western culture deemed it "right" to label some people (often women) witches and burn them at the stake. A mere 60 or so years ago, a significant portion of the German people either considered it "right" (or turned their heads the other way) to send Jews off to the crematorium. As an aside: My parents met and married in Germany several years after WWII. I came across their marriage licence while going through some old papers the other day. I was interested to note that even 6 years after the war had ended and Germany was still pretty much occupied by the US, the German civil form for a marriage licence had remained unchanged since 1937. There was a space where the faith of each person had to be typed in, so it reads: Marichiko's Dad - Evangelical; Marichiko's Mom - Catholic A small reminder of a time when a person's faith was, indeed, a matter of life or death. I'd love to know what my Dad said to the German official who issued that document. He must have been having fun with the guy, because my Dad was ANYTHING but an "Evangelical" Christian! But I digress. The point I was trying to make is that we often translate the word of the society which prevails at the time into the word of God. There IS a difference, but many people, ESPECIALLY fundamentalists, don't pick up on this minor point. It must annoy God no end.

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