6/24: Final McVeigh bloodlust image

Undertoad · 06-24-2001, 09:22 AM

This ad, said to be sponsored by the group "Citizens for Capital Punishment," ran in Monday's Terre Haute Tribune-Star after being rejected by The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, according to Tom Ungar of the Chicago ad agency the Ungar Group. Ungar insists the ad is serious and pro-capital punishment, although he acknowledged that numerous callers have seen it instead as a parody.

Ungar said the CCP is a newly formed Chicago group that prefers to let the ad speak for itself. Was he disappointed that so many people saw the ad as anti-capital punishment? "You never can predict what will happen with a piece of communication," Ungar said. "It's provocative to the point of getting people to discuss the issue."

verbatim · 06-24-2001, 02:29 PM

good for them. McV deserves it.

but it looks like they are watching a hockey game. you know america is out of whack when people enjoy seeing other peolpe die, but hey, thats also the entertainment industry.

kisrael · 06-24-2001, 10:05 PM

I'm against capital punishment, but man, if we're gonna do it, pull out all the friggin' stops! Don't try to pretend there's some dignity to the affair. Go full out bread and circuses. Sell tickets, popcorn, stadium seating. Think of some new and gruesome ways of doing it. Let the criminals know what's waiting for them if they're really bad. (Yeah, it may endanger a few prison officials if the inmates watch, and make a martyr of some folks, but you know, whatever, that stuff might happen anyway)

It's barbaric, and a gloss of "privacy" and "dignity" won't change that. I'll be a bit upset if that close circuit broadcast of McVeigh's execution doesn't make it to the web.

Count Zero · 06-24-2001, 11:30 PM

And you're AGAINST capital punishment ?

You sound like those people in the ad. ;-)

kisrael · 06-25-2001, 06:00 PM

Well, that's the point... I don't think we should kill, but I think it's hypocritical to give it a sheen of respectibility. If you're going to take away someone's life, I don't see that there's much sense in pretending you're leaving other things like privacy and dignity.

Also, I think more people might be properly outraged if we made it into a spectator sport, and then maybe the law will be changed and we can join the civlized nations in, oh, not letting the state be an eye for an eye murderer.

elSicomoro · 06-25-2001, 09:05 PM

This Tuesday night on FOX..."When Bad People Die..."

In fact, this topic is along the lines of Lard's song "Generation Execute."

serge · 06-28-2001, 05:35 AM

kaleidoscopic ziggurat · 06-28-2001, 09:52 AM

ha ha ha... and "HA"

i like that comique..

elSicomoro · 06-28-2001, 03:16 PM

Tom Tomorrow rules...I love reading "This Modern World."

jaguar · 06-29-2001, 12:04 AM

Where did you get that???
I love it!

06-24-2001, 10:05 PM	#3
kisrael Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 56	I'm against capital punishment, but man, if we're gonna do it, pull out all the friggin' stops! Don't try to pretend there's some dignity to the affair. Go full out bread and circuses. Sell tickets, popcorn, stadium seating. Think of some new and gruesome ways of doing it. Let the criminals know what's waiting for them if they're really bad. (Yeah, it may endanger a few prison officials if the inmates watch, and make a martyr of some folks, but you know, whatever, that stuff might happen anyway) It's barbaric, and a gloss of "privacy" and "dignity" won't change that. I'll be a bit upset if that close circuit broadcast of McVeigh's execution doesn't make it to the web. __________________ http://kisrael.com - quotes and links daily, worth the click

06-25-2001, 06:00 PM	#5
kisrael Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 56	Well, that's the point... I don't think we should kill, but I think it's hypocritical to give it a sheen of respectibility. If you're going to take away someone's life, I don't see that there's much sense in pretending you're leaving other things like privacy and dignity. Also, I think more people might be properly outraged if we made it into a spectator sport, and then maybe the law will be changed and we can join the civlized nations in, oh, not letting the state be an eye for an eye murderer. __________________ http://kisrael.com - quotes and links daily, worth the click

06-28-2001, 05:35 AM	#7
serge * Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 85	__________________ Patriotism is for Losers

06-29-2001, 12:04 AM	#10
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Where did you get that??? I love it! __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-24-2001, 09:22 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This ad, said to be sponsored by the group "Citizens for Capital Punishment," ran in Monday's Terre Haute Tribune-Star after being rejected by The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, according to Tom Ungar of the Chicago ad agency the Ungar Group. Ungar insists the ad is serious and pro-capital punishment, although he acknowledged that numerous callers have seen it instead as a parody. Ungar said the CCP is a newly formed Chicago group that prefers to let the ad speak for itself. Was he disappointed that so many people saw the ad as anti-capital punishment? "You never can predict what will happen with a piece of communication," Ungar said. "It's provocative to the point of getting people to discuss the issue."

06-24-2001, 02:29 PM	#2
verbatim Vice-President of Resentment Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pennsultucky Posts: 199	good for them. McV deserves it. but it looks like they are watching a hockey game. you know america is out of whack when people enjoy seeing other peolpe die, but hey, thats also the entertainment industry.

06-24-2001, 11:30 PM	#4
Count Zero Colloquialist Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 75	And you're AGAINST capital punishment ? You sound like those people in the ad. ;-)

06-25-2001, 09:05 PM	#6
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	This Tuesday night on FOX..."When Bad People Die..." In fact, this topic is along the lines of Lard's song "Generation Execute."

06-28-2001, 09:52 AM	#8
kaleidoscopic ziggurat Coronation Incarnate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 90	ha ha ha... and "HA" i like that comique..

06-28-2001, 03:16 PM	#9
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Tom Tomorrow rules...I love reading "This Modern World."

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