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Old 02-20-2006, 12:00 AM   #121
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Facets are fine, it's the abrupt junctions that are jarring.
After much prayer, meditation, and honest humble self-seeking, I can honestly, without reservation, say, I have never experienced an abrupt junction jarring.

Adds abrupt junction jarring to my wish list.
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Old 02-20-2006, 12:04 AM   #122
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After much prayer, meditation, and honest humble self-seeking, I can honestly, without reservation, say, I have never experienced an abrupt junction jarring.

Adds abrupt junction jarring to my wish list.
Oh, Lord, I am cracking up here! It almost makes me wish Flippant/Atropos was still around (but not really).
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Old 02-20-2006, 01:47 AM   #123
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nope, not really.
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Old 02-20-2006, 07:38 PM   #124
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By the way you may find the following interview with Anne Wright a former Colonel in the US Army and member of the US Foreign Service turned anti-war protestor, which appeared in Counter Punch interesting (snip):

TD: So what is it that actually holds people back?

AW: I think the higher up you go, the more common it is for people to retire, or maybe even resign, and not say what the reasons are, because they may hope to get back into government in a different administration. Dick Clarke had served every administration since George Washington and maybe he was looking toward being called back as a political appointee again. Sometimes such people don't speak out because they feel loyalty to the person who appointed them. Nobody appointed me to nothin', except the American people. I'm a career foreign service officer and I serve the American people. When an administration wasn't serving the best interests of the American people, I felt I had to stand up.

TD: And are you now pretty much a full-time antiwar activist?

AW: [She laughs.] That's the way it's turned out.

TD: What, if anything, do you think your military career, your State Department career, and this… well, I can't call it a career… have in common?

AW: Service to America. It's all just a continuation of a real concern I have about my country.

TD: And what would you say to your former compatriots still in the military and the State Department?

AW: Many of the emails I received from Foreign Service officers said, I wish I could resign right now, but I've got kids in college, I've got mortgages, and I'm going to try really hard, by staying, to ameliorate the intensity of these policies. All I can say is that they must be in agony about not being able to affect policy. There have been plenty of early retirements by people who finally realized they couldn't moderate the policies of the Bush administration.

TD: What message would you send to the person you once were from the person you are now?

AW: You trained me well.

TD: If in this room you had the thirty-five year-old woman about to go into Grenada, as you did back in 1983, what would you want her to mull over.

AW: I would say: You were a good Army officer and Foreign Service officer. You weren't blind to the faults of America. In many jobs, you tried to rectify things that were going badly and you succeeded a couple of times. My resignation wasn't the first time I spoke out. For instance, I was loaned, or seconded, from the State Department to the staff of the United Nations operation in Somalia and ended up writing a memo concerning the military operations the UN was conducting to kill a warlord named Aideed. They started taking helicopters, standing off, and just blowing up buildings where they had intelligence indicating perhaps he was there. Well, tragically he never was, and here we were blowing up all these Somali families. Of course the Somalis were outraged and that outrage ultimately led to Blackhawk Down.

I wrote a legal opinion to the special representative of the Secretary General, saying the UN operations were illegal and had to stop. It was leaked to the Washington Post and I got in a bit of hot water initially, but ultimately my analysis proved correct. I was also a bit of a rabble-rouser on the utilization of women in the military back in the eighties, part of a small group of women who took on the Army when it was trying to reduce the career potentials of women. I ended up getting right in the thick of some major problems which ultimately cost the Army millions of dollars in the reassessment of units that had been given incorrect direct-combat probability codings. I was also part of a team which discovered that some of our troops had been looting private homes in Grenada. The Army court-martialed a lot of our soldiers for this violation of the law of land warfare. We used their example in rewriting how you teach the code of conduct and, actually, the Geneva Convention on the responsibility of occupiers.

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Old 02-23-2006, 08:42 AM   #125
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One more rat jumps ship

Francis the Talkin... er sorry Francis Fukuyama abandoned his PNAC pals last weekend. Keep in mind that he was one of the original PNAC signatories and initially supported the Iraq invasion. He isn't real bright for an intellectual so don't expect a sensible foreign policy suggestion.
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Old 02-23-2006, 10:53 AM   #126
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Oh, Lord, I am cracking up here! It almost makes me wish Flippant/Atropos was still around (but not really).
aren't you?

anyway, we like your new 'tonchi' character better than those two.
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Old 02-23-2006, 02:49 PM   #127
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aren't you?

anyway, we like your new 'tonchi' character better than those two.
Thank you. I am deeply honored.
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Old 02-23-2006, 08:57 PM   #128
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Huh? Well OK, I guess you can hate me because Mari and I are twins. Just don't hate me because I'm beautiful
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